What is your preferred hitch and cordage?

Magnum783 said:
I have a hitch hiker too still trying to get it dialed in. I struggle with the hitch cord thing. Being a big dude makes things far more intensified if it's a bad combo. When you say climb with a HH do you mean DdRT with it or SRT. What my goal is to figure out if I should try a shorter hitch cord to make for less set back. This is what kills me when I do have to make a DdRT assent it feels like I go up two feet and back 3.
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One thing to try that has nothing to do with hitchcord length is to modify your climbing style so you don't sit down after every pull if that makes sense. For example with a foot ascender and a Haas or SAKA which you can use SRT or DRT, just walk the rope as far as you can go without sitting back on your hitch. That takes away the sitback problem instantly. On your last push before you sit back to rest push your hitch all the way up while your still standing up on your foot ascender and Haas, very little sitback. You can also shorten your bridge a little to reduce sitback.

You're talking about a Hitch Climber, not Hitch Hiker right? Try 10mm 28" and 30" e2e cords, do a 5 wrap Michoacan with the 30", very little sitback. Stitched eye cord is not equal to a 30" spliced eye cord, spliced eye cord will seem shorter than the stitched cord when you're configuring your hitch because of the bury etc.
-AJ
 
moss said:
One thing to try that has nothing to do with hitchcord length is to modify your climbing style so you don't sit down after every pull if that makes sense. For example with a foot ascender and a Haas or SAKA which you can use SRT or DRT, just walk the rope as far as you can go without sitting back on your hitch. That takes away the sitback problem instantly. On your last push before you sit back to rest push your hitch all the way up while your still standing up on your foot ascender and Haas, very little sitback. You can also shorten your bridge a little to reduce sitback.

You're talking about a Hitch Climber, not Hitch Hiker right? Try 10mm 28" and 30" e2e cords, do a 5 wrap Michoacan with the 30", very little sitback. Stitched eye cord is not equal to a 30" spliced eye cord, spliced eye cord will seem shorter than the stitched cord when you're configuring your hitch because of the bury etc.
-AJ
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I never thought to bring my saka over to DbRT. I do quite well using it with my hitch hiker. I will have to look into ordering some shorter hitch cords I am quite sure mine are 32" long now. 2" would make a very large diff. Do you have a cordage preff and a preff spliced vs sewn
 
I excerpted a clip out of a longer video I recently posted in the Rec Forum, the clip shows tying a modified Cooper's Hitch with a 28" 10mm ArmorPrus cord with sewn eyes. This hitch and cord has the least sitback of any I've used and it works very well SRT or DRT, for me anyway. The hitch is simply 5 coils, below the coils cross one leg over the other and tuck it around the back of the climbing line. Optimal with a Hitch Climber pulley SRT or DRT, never needs to be nudged up, always grabs. The ArmorPrus needs to be broken in a little to be supple enough to configure this way for the length of the cord. I roll the cord flat on a rough barked tree back and forth with two hands flat against the trunk to make the new cord more supple.


-AJ
 
Moss that's an interesting foot ascender/foot-lock technique (learn something new everyday).

I'm going to try it, thank you for the video.
 
Thank you so much guys that is the info I need. I really like that simple hitch moss so cool how tree people have gone both way with knots super complex and super simple. Keep the info comming and I will update you on progress as it comes
 
fitz said:
Moss that's an interesting foot ascender/foot-lock technique (learn something new everyday).

I'm going to try it, thank you for the video.
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Cool, be patient with it, doesn't go smooth at first. It's a half hitch around your left foot, point your toe up when you're lifting your foot for the next push, point your toe down to lock it. Sometimes have to hand feed it for the first two locks getting off the ground, the more rope weight under you the smoother it gets.

This is for the right foot, just reverse for the left
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Pointing the toe down locks it
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I climbed a few years using this, I was too cheap to buy a Pantin. Combined with a foot ascender it's an awesome technique.
-AJ
 
moss said:
Cool, be patient with it, doesn't go smooth at first. It's a half hitch around your left foot, point your toe up when you're lifting your foot for the next push, point your toe down to lock it. Sometimes have to hand feed it for the first two locks getting off the ground, the more rope weight under you the smoother it gets.

This is for the right foot, just reverse for the left
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Pointing the toe down locks it
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I climbed a few years using this, I was too cheap to buy a Pantin. Combined with a foot ascender it's an awesome technique.
-AJ
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Awesome! Thank you so much moss!

I like it's simplicity and you are using the power of both your legs to push you up.

Is the power in both legs equal or is it more 60% ascender 40% locked foot?
 
It's equal power both legs, move the foot ascender up first, then the loop foot up right next to it, then push both feet down same time. It's a lot like secured footlock power-wise except your knees and feet are aligned better when you load them up. My arm motion is the same as secured footlock except I'm not pushing a hitch up, or you can hand over hand it.
 
Tendril , HC, ddrt, 4:3 Vt, AP, 8mm tied at 27 1/2 " . I like tied ends on cord, easy adjustment for different ropes or techniques. Or maybe I'm just cheap.
 
For those of you that use knots. How do they work with the hitch climber pulley. I have a few options for the knot world just don't feel they will work well with the knots. Also the hitch climber has changed my world I am an idiot for not doing it sooner.
 
I just set my hitch hiker up with 10mm beeline we will see. I like the Krut chizmin posted above. I really feel like the VT does not work great where you are standing on limbs and the tension leaves and let's the knot collapse I don't ever get all the wraps and kruts back like I had them when I start. If someone has additional advice how to prevent this I am all ears.
 
I'm.using beeline on my Tachyon. Use 16 strand XTC for my double rope . I'm not a pro. Weekend warrior. And am I the fattest climber at 265# without gear?
 
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