what are your trim specs?

bigshea13

bigshea13

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ny/canadian border washington state for now
our utility has pretty much gone to a 15 foot box allthe way around the wire on rural roadside trees. 6 foot in yards. evergreens can be shelved roadside but not off road. other than evergreens onroad and yard trees all trees over 8 inches dbh are to have correct collar cuts. from the first cut we made all the way to the ground all branches are to be removed. once so much as one cut has been placed on the tree in the existing tree line it must be trimmed all the way down to t he last branch.

those are just a quick verion of the specs. this type of trimming is new to me. are any of you other guys doing this? after the trees have been hammered like that does the survival rate drop drastically{from your personal observations in field}? do you guys find yourself going on more trouble calls? im not sure this is the best approach to line clearence if your trying to avoin outtages. maybe im wrong ....maybe they have it figured out..but i think once youve removed the vast majority of the tangled branches in that tree line,taking large quantities of the tree off, that the tree heatlth will eventually decline and youll end up with an entire row of declining trees which now hve no webbing to keep then secure during storms.
then they will have to be removed.......hmmm...maybe thats the idea
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Here is our spec: (95% bucket work)
15' clearence ground to sky (we got screwed). unless we can't reach it. then maybe climb it...if we get sent back and specifically told to. in yards we get whatever we can convince the homeowner to let us do. sometimes leave a shelf, sometimes not, sometimes we remove the tree, sometimes not. basically we do whatever we feel like and are prolly gonna get sent back to redo it. But thats what happens when the guy whos supposed to give you your instructions doesn't really enforce them or know whats actually going on. Keep in mind i work for a contractor who works for the power company. Too many cheifs, not enough indians.
 
Around here it's 9 years of growth away from primaries and distribution. I don't know who makes the call on that since trees don't exactly grow at the same rate.
 
every town/muni is defferent. we have crews on 4 different contracts at times, and at minimum 3.

1 town requires all deadwood 2"+. All towns must have removals approved by the tree warden, light dept, and if private the customer. once approved we go back to those locales and do them.

All contracts except for national grid require directional pruning over raping.....proper arboriculture in other words. HEALTHY trees can co exist with lines and have no ill effects.
 
thats a far stretch from the truth. first off ALL utilities in ny are trimming to the same specs as grid or lower, ive worked literally ALL across the country and most utilities are worse than grid. secondly your last line of your post.........i could write you a book on why thats a falicy. so to save me cramps and you hard feelings i'll let that one blow over. polemic texts usually lead to huge threads with nothing resolved in the end. im basically looking for input from strictly utility tree guys on this one.if your in the trade ...you understand.
ps...if you really look hard enough youll find that most mature trees have some health issue. they may not be in need of immediate attention at the moment, but....
 
How do you know what is required on OUR contracts? Are you in our state or co. and I dont know you?

The last line of my post is missing the word OUR, it should start.......All OUR contracts. I apologize greatly for confusing you. Call me anytime to speak about this matter, PM me for contact info. I look forward to hearing from you Mr. Shea
 
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im basically looking for input from strictly utility tree guys on this one.if your in the trade ...you understand.


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Sorry Big shea I didnt catch thatin your first post. Us part timers dont count ehh?

You started this thread with an intent to troll for something, and I think you have found it.
 
You shouldnt assume things, sir. I call hacks when I see them, mostly here on this site when pics of hacked trees are osted. I also see some shoddy work around here, mostly under the grid because of their aggressive trim specs. In the smaller towns w/stricter standards you see far less of it.

The invitation is still there Mr. Shea, call me anytime for my feelings, and stop assuming. Better yet next time your down ill buy you a beer.

What part of NY Canadian border you working? My stepfathers family is in the Plattsburgh/Ellenburg area.
 
Wow I can see where this thread is going. We shoot for 10 feet on sides and under the distribution (further for fast growers as needed) we also do not allow any overhang on distribution and for greater voltages. But than again we mostly deal with pines and beautiful Siberian elms (I think the world really need more of these). We try to remove anything under or close on the sides that need constant pruning. Sorry for never calling you Bull, ended up waiting out a couple of snow storms at the office with little work except when home shoveling and congrats on the little ones.
 
Yeah but you guys probably had work, we only had a couple of trees come down. My guys spent more time shoveling the walks and drives at the yard. We weathered the storms well even though we received about 3 feet of the stuff in a week.
 
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