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[Slacktender]

Just remembered - and prolly for a different thread here -
I was gonna ask you guys for any tips on reducing that aluminum jingle, especially at the d-rings & rigging plates.
I'm working on using Rubber and webbing wherever I can.
I am often "poaching" large Redwoods & Firs, and my kit is pretty stealth, but I don't want to be heard... as much for disturbing the wildlife as being seen/heard.
I'm currently soaring through the heavens on a Onyx if that matters.
I'll try and get some pictures posted on the Rec harness/saddle set up or Dream Rec Setup thread..... as soon as I figure stuff out.
Cheers

 

[Burrapeg]

Just remembered - and prolly for a different thread here -
I was gonna ask you guys for any tips on reducing that aluminum jingle, especially at the d-rings & rigging plates. . .

Yes, indeed. I was shocked when I looked at some video I had shot, at how loud all the jingling from my saddle was carrying quite a distance. I was able to silence some of it with shrink tubing slipped over biners, etc. but on rings and other things, it is a challenge to quieten them down.

 

[Slacktender]

Yes, indeed. I was shocked when I looked at some video I had shot, at how loud all the jingling from my saddle was carrying quite a distance. I was able to silence some of it with shrink tubing slipped over biners, etc. but on rings and other things, it is a challenge to quieten them down.

Thanks Burrapeg.
I've been meaning to get some clear shrink wrap to put over spliced/sewn items anyway....
Sounds like a good option to try, what size/diameter and does the heat shrink shrink well/tightly around the corners of a biner? (where they're making contact/noise)?

 

[Slacktender]

I've seen electrical tape, webbing and rubber big shot tubing wrapped around carabiners and links in an effort to control that jingle jangle from happening. Even New Tribe put webbing on their delta link for one saddle version of the Yellow Jacket. Controlling this jingle in a SRT set-up can be difficult due to the amount of hardware being used, I've mostly resorted to living with it for the most part.

Another option might be to use some form of soft connections between hardware. @Brocky made an excellent suggestion to me about using a double loop sliding grapevine thingy on page 48 post #951 & 954 here: http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/dmm-throw-hook.30556/page-48 Maybe this will give you some ideas.

Thank you Bob Bob!
I did see that double grapevine slider thingy....
looks sorta like two double fishermans (grapevine) knots pulled up tight together?
I'll have to see if I can figure out how to tie that up and snug and dress it so neatly!
Brocky does seem like the knot mastermind of this site!
I also have a bunch of old quickdraw dogbones? I could try to implement in some way.... along with some old Bigshot tubing I've got laying around.
I'm connecting to one bridge directly... and to another bridge with a Nano swivel to eliminate any noise there. Without having to carry much gear it's mostly eliminating the noise at the upper/lower D's and of course, self control on the amount of other shiny things draped around my waist!

 

[Burrapeg]

Thanks Burrapeg.
I've been meaning to get some clear shrink wrap to put over spliced/sewn items anyway....
Sounds like a good option to try, what size/diameter and does the heat shrink shrink well/tightly around the corners of a biner? (where they're making contact/noise)?

I was using some 3/4 inch heavy duty shrink tubing that had the glue inside. It is really rugged stuff.

 

[Brocky]

To quiet things down a hitch cord that uses a soft shackle connection, rather than eyes, eliminates a carabiner to clank on the ring, or D. Soft shackles can replace carabiners, as long as the use doesn’t require frequent opening. I like to use rope cover rather than shrink tube, or tape. An o ring keeps the carabiner in place.

 

[CanadianStan]

You, sir, are brilliant

 

[moss]

As far as gear noise goes, I'm interested in reducing it mainly when I'm walking to and from a tree. Usually where I climb I don't run into people but I like to hear and see wildlife, including a snake moving through dry leaves or a deer cracking a stick as it walks. If I sound like a moving kitchenware shop I won't hear anything and I'll scare everything off 150' ahead and around me so I won't see anything. I wear my harness rather than pack it, carabiners can be tucked in one of two zippered New Tribe bags on my harness belt, the swivel and rings on my harness bridges are clipped up to my side D's which quiets them down a lot. As far as climbing noise goes most of it is made by climbers snapping off deadwood, shouting, etc. If any part of my gear makes a "ding" during my climbing motion I quickly address that.

I love Brocky's innovations, especially that rope cover sleeve positioned with O-rings. Since I'm not a Special Forces operative the measures I've mentioned above go a long way to quieting things down. The main sound people in the woods broadcast besides talking is the two-legged trudging sound, unique to our species. All of the woods mammals and birds know it and react. When I'm climbing there's no way anyone is accidentally sneaking up on me, I'll hear their two-footed shuffle from a fair distance well before they'll have the opportunity to notice me. Sometimes if I'm fully geared up walking in I'll move 20' off the trail and sit down or stand still and they'll walk right pass. Most people in the woods don't look up, I've had birdwatchers in more urban parks spot me, they look up. On the other hand everyone's dog spots me even if the owner doesn't, one carabiner gate click and the dog is all over it. They're monitoring for squirrels so any clicky-scratchy canopy sound is something they'll pay attention to.
-AJ

 

[Burrapeg]

Yes, the sodding dogs. I was up a tree on some park land here, well off the trail, and a hiker's dogs spotted me and were jumping and barking at the base of the tree til he came up and called them off. Very embarrassing! The guy looked at me like I was nuts.

 

[moss]

Yes, the sodding dogs. I was up a tree on some park land here, well off the trail, and a hiker's dogs spotted me and were jumping and barking at the base of the tree til he came up and called them off. Very embarrassing! The guy looked at me like I was nuts.

I spotted a former co-worker in a semi-urban woodland walking his dog. I was high in a red oak, dog detected me immediately. I called the guy's name multiple times, he kept looking around but wouldn't look up. I gave up calling his name, he gave up looking around and continued on his way.

Main problem with dogs is they will pilfer your lunch, very quickly. I've had it happen twice. Secure your food before climbing or take it with you ;-)
-AJ

 

[Slacktender]

Wow Brocky -
The rope with corner traps on the carabiner is exactly the kind of ideas I was looking for! Thank you.
Moss, I agree, People will almost never notice you in a tree.... but animals are usually alerted to my presence from quite a distance!
I will also wear my harness walking about, but keep my hardware in the bag on my back. I'm definitely not Special Ops - but dislike interactions having to explain why I'm in a tree.
So being as stealth as possible in my goal.
I am climbing in a forest setting, sometimes hiking deep in the woods but will often climb a nice specimen near a road or hiking trail.
I keep 100' of 5 mm cord in a throwline mug to haul/hang my gearbag up in the trees if I think there's any chance of it being spotted or pilfered by animals or otherwise.

 

[Slacktender]

Burrapeg -
.....people always think you're nuts when you're up in a tree!
"What are you doing up there?!?"
especially if your not doing tree work...
why else would anyone want to climb a tree.
I used to try to get friends & co-workers to climb for fun after work or on weekends - They all thought I was crazy!

 

[WaitakKauri]

Just remembered - and prolly for a different thread here -
I was gonna ask you guys for any tips on reducing that aluminum jingle, especially at the d-rings & rigging plates.
I'm working on using Rubber and webbing wherever I can.
I am often "poaching" large Redwoods & Firs, and my kit is pretty stealth, but I don't want to be heard... as much for disturbing the wildlife as being seen/heard.
I'm currently soaring through the heavens on a Onyx if that matters.
I'll try and get some pictures posted on the Rec harness/saddle set up or Dream Rec Setup thread..... as soon as I figure stuff out.
Cheers

I'm on an Onyx too. Maybe hand sewing some webbing on the D rings?

I've wondered if you can cut heat shrink and super glue it, then shrink it? Probably not.

Oh, this gives me an idea, we do this on mtn bikes. We wrap the bike tube (around part of the frame for protection) and use electrical tape and zip ties to finish the ends. That could work on the large Onyx side D's.

That could work well. Anyway, just an idea to try to help.

 

[WaitakKauri]

Some serious thought and good practice here for stealthy gear... very cool.

 

[Jehinten]

but animals are usually alerted to my presence from quite a distance!

Personally I don't necessarily see this as a problem, and the moment your face to face with a startled 25lb racoon you will probably agree.

Just like the rest of the woods, if your not crashing through the brush, the wildlife will come back out to play once you've been there for a little bit.

 

[Jehinten]

And maybe I'm just biased, I only rec climb on my property which is next to a highway, so I usually have my ear protection on anyways just to drown out the sounds of traffic.

 

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

Because it's fun, I like fun.

 

[climbstihl]

Usually to try out new gear and techniques I saw here or on youtube, but I also like the challenge of it, figuring out which way is the most efficient and just practising skills like limbwalking and swinging. An added benefit is getting away and just enjoying nature.

 

[Lampyrid]

I climb for adventure and exercise. Gym memberships are boring, but my climbing instructor is hot.

 

[Jimmycrackcorn]

The same reason I Scuba dive in underwater caves, it requires 100% of my attention to stay alive. I also get to see places that very few have ever been.

There is a room in a cave in Utah that only 4 people have ever explored, I was #3 and took #4 in there a week later. Trees can be a similar experience.


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With scuba gear? Shucks man, that's cheating! Do it with no tanks!! How do you know your #3 & that no one else has been there except you & the other 3?

Hahaha.. I'm just mucking with ya..! That stuff must be pretty wild! That's one recreation I'm not too sure of.. My fat ass would get stuck in the first lemon squeeze we tried to get through..lol. I'd be all sorts of jammed up.. I just know it!

Do you record any of your expeditions?