TreeStuff and SherrillTree Join Forces

monkeylove said:
Because I have visited TS, meet all of them and like them. Because at the Pittsburgh show they said screw the system, we will have our own party every night. Where I might add they gave stuff away until it hurt and rented a great place to kick back and party with other tree poeple. Admission cost for all that....free.

All my orders go to Wesspur or TS (as long as it stays alive) never Sherrill proper. I have certainly have not been climbing for anywhere near the years that some of you have but for me it is really simple. I go to classes, courses, or climbs and I see NGD or TreeStuff, if not free stuff from them to give away is usally there. Before this thread Sherrill was just a company with a crappy mobile website.
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Good for you mate. I just find it odd that you're talking, or at least I interpret your post like they're still 2 separate companies, contrary to the thread title 'Treestuff and sherril join forces'....but even that is misleading in the suggestion like it's a merger, or partnership etc. A more honest title might be 'Sherril tree now owns treestuff.' Why not call a spade a spade ?
 
Is Treestuff no longer the same? Looks the same to me.

If I want to buy a Dodge truck or a Jeep, do I give a shit the they are " owned " by Fiat? When Fiat bought those companies did they all become identical to Fiat?

Branding can take many forms. It would be crazy for Sherrill to alter the successful practices and service that Treestuff has shown work so well.
 
DSMc said:
Is Treestuff no longer the same? Looks the same to me.

If I want to buy a Dodge truck or a Jeep, do I give a shit the they are " owned " by Fiat? When Fiat bought those companies did they all become identical to Fiat?

Branding can take many forms. It would be crazy for Sherrill to alter the successful practices and service that Treestuff has shown work so well.
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I suppose it depends how much, or if you care at all who ends up getting the money you spent, Dave.

If, like you say 'you don't give a shit', and all that matters is a good price, then yeah it doesn't really matter. But as is evident here and has been repeated already, there's a lot of treeworkers who do care where they spend there money, and feel like they're contributing to a companies evolution and continuity when they repeatedly shop there. An investment, call it. And that's just the customers....not to mention the actual Product Manufacturers who make a similar investment by offering access of their product line to the company (in this case treestuff), thinking it was a secure and long term relationship. And then, one day without any prior indication or warning, you read on treebuzz that Treestuff just sold out to Sherrill....and that's that.

I think its a matter of principle. Some people will feel it, others wont. Right and wrong is just a personal perception really. I dont like how some of my personal designs have been distributed and controlled through treestuff for a couple years at least....only to discover and realise through an impersonal thread on a public forum that this 'buy-out' has taken place. Dress it up as 'business' if you want, but to me its not cool....being mislead that is.

Incidentally, the guys at Stein are really looking forward to working with Sherrill, apparently. They steer the boat, and I trust in their judgement, so whatever. Sherrill have a dealer here in Victoria now too, I may have said that already. In a small city on an island its like a blessing. I tell all the local guys to shop there because we need them to stay open.
 
I personally also feel a sense of betrayal and loss of a peer in a company that "sells out" rather than withstanding the onslaught, persisting in the face of strong competition and adversity. Hell I have been in business for over 45 years and could have given up a myriad of times for intense difficulty in the challenge of operating what you began yourself, then earned clients and retained them and struggled endlessly against whatever and whoever.

The enjoyment is NOT in the accomplishment of wealth but rather the struggle itself being fought and won thousands of times. Picture me on crutches plowing snow last winter and getting out and falling in a snow bank and getting back up and pouring 50 lb. bags into a salt spreader...to pay the bills. Countless nights up all night doing desk work after doing "big boy" tree work all day in 95 degree humid weather for 6 days straight right thru the weekend...just last week. I beat out ALL the big companies for clients in my high end local turf...have been for 4 decades, and will continue to do so til I get planted in the earth.

I KNOW the Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, business owners, professionals of all types living high level lives and working from dawn to dusk to live in this community respect this as I respect them. Why can't you see this is the same thing...you can try to paint it any way you want...but you QUIT, and SOLD OUT. My respect is gone for your company.

To see someone "give up"...."sell out"...when they have just been business for an amount of time equivalent to a stream of piss in the ocean...well it is a little pitiful while at the same time unrespectable, un cool, un tree man like...and downright un American...despite what anti capitilist libtards like McSwan say.

So should TreeSherrillstuff eventually disappear completely, or turn into a fire sale outlet or be forced to fly the Sherrill flag over their conquered territory (just to put them in their place)...no surprise from me. Why do you think they bought them out in the first place? You are a quitter Luke in my opinion and you can take that under your beach umbrella with your bankroll.
 
treevet said:
I personally also feel a sense of betrayal and loss of a peer in a company that "sells out" rather than withstanding the onslaught, persisting in the face of strong competition and adversity. Hell I have been in business for over 45 years and could have given up a myriad of times for intense difficulty in the challenge of operating what you began yourself, then earned clients and retained them and struggled endlessly against whatever and whoever.

The enjoyment is NOT in the accomplishment of wealth but rather the struggle itself being fought and won thousands of times. Picture me on crutches plowing snow last winter and getting out and falling in a snow bank and getting back up and pouring 50 lb. bags into a salt spreader...to pay the bills. Countless nights up all night doing desk work after doing "big boy" tree work all day in 95 degree humid weather for 6 days straight right thru the weekend...just last week. I beat out ALL the big companies for clients in my high end local turf...have been for 4 decades, and will continue to do so til I get planted in the earth.

I KNOW the Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, business owners, professionals of all types living high level lives and working from dawn to dusk to live in this community respect this as I respect them. Why can't you see this is the same thing...you can try to paint it any way you want...but you QUIT, and SOLD OUT. My respect is gone for your company.

To see someone "give up"...."sell out"...when they have just been business for an amount of time equivalent to a stream of piss in the ocean...well it is a little pitiful while at the same time unrespectable, un cool, un tree man like...and downright un American...despite what anti capitilist libtards like McSwan say.

So should TreeSherrillstuff eventually disappear completely, or turn into a fire sale outlet or be forced to fly the Sherrill flag over their conquered territory (just to put them in their place)...no surprise from me. Why do you think they bought them out in the first place? You are a quitter Luke in my opinion and you can take that under your beach umbrella with your bankroll.
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Luke didn't "sell out" for money, he did it for family. As a person who has worked his ass off for 45 years you should recognize the personal sacrifice Luke's talking about. If you're still living some outdated machismo bullshit where the man should do nothing but work at all cost that's on you. Don't try to reflect that nonsense on to others because you just come off sounding like a fool.
 
treevet said:
I personally also feel a sense of betrayal and loss of a peer in a company that "sells out" rather than withstanding the onslaught, persisting in the face of strong competition and adversity. Hell I have been in business for over 45 years and could have given up a myriad of times for intense difficulty in the challenge of operating what you began yourself, then earned clients and retained them and struggled endlessly against whatever and whoever.

The enjoyment is NOT in the accomplishment of wealth but rather the struggle itself being fought and won thousands of times. Picture me on crutches plowing snow last winter and getting out and falling in a snow bank and getting back up and pouring 50 lb. bags into a salt spreader...to pay the bills. Countless nights up all night doing desk work after doing "big boy" tree work all day in 95 degree humid weather for 6 days straight right thru the weekend...just last week. I beat out ALL the big companies for clients in my high end local turf...have been for 4 decades, and will continue to do so til I get planted in the earth.

I KNOW the Lawyers, Doctors, Judges, business owners, professionals of all types living high level lives and working from dawn to dusk to live in this community respect this as I respect them. Why can't you see this is the same thing...you can try to paint it any way you want...but you QUIT, and SOLD OUT. My respect is gone for your company.

To see someone "give up"...."sell out"...when they have just been business for an amount of time equivalent to a stream of piss in the ocean...well it is a little pitiful while at the same time unrespectable, un cool, un tree man like...and downright un American...despite what anti capitilist libtards like McSwan say.

So should TreeSherrillstuff eventually disappear completely, or turn into a fire sale outlet or be forced to fly the Sherrill flag over their conquered territory (just to put them in their place)...no surprise from me. Why do you think they bought them out in the first place? You are a quitter Luke in my opinion and you can take that under your beach umbrella with your bankroll.
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You obviously don't know Luke. It is sad to see you speak out in this way. I am deeply upset that this is the respect Luke and Erin are getting for their service all these years. I could spend the next 5 pages of this thread responding to your post and the posts of others who are taking this attitude towards our friends, but I don't think it is necessary. Your accusations are weak. Treestuff has served us all better than we deserve and they deserve better than this. So I myself am thankful that I got to do business with Luke and Erin when they were the owners! However, they decided it would be better for their young children to have more Dad and Mom time, something I appreciate immensely and respect them for. Anyway, I will continue to shop at treestuff because nothing has changed except behind the scenes. Yes my money is going to Sherrill, but Sherrill's money is going to Luke and Erin and Nick and Carson, and, and, and everyone in the Treesuff staff. I will continue to demonstrate with my wallet that the service at Treestuff counts and Sherrill will see that they shouldn't change anything. Also, Sherrilltree is doing really well lately making huge steps and their staff is awesome...ever spoke with Sean, great guy! Do what you think is right, but don't speak ill of someone for doing something that they believe to be the right choice for them. I am sorry to see the behavior here and can only hope you can come to understand the other side of the story.
 
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I think the overall sentiment for a lot of us, and I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, is that TreeStuff earned a lot of their business by being what Sherrill wasn't. People found a good opportunity to go elsewhere other than Sherrill and did so, the. That got taken away from them. Yes TS brand may stay the same but a portion of what is spent there goes to the very people many were trying to avoid by going to TS.

As it was stated earlier... Principal.
 
Boomslang said:
Luke didn't "sell out" for money, he did it for family. As a person who has worked his ass off for 45 years you should recognize the personal sacrifice Luke's talking about. If you're still living some outdated machismo bullshit where the man should do nothing but work at all cost that's on you. Don't try to reflect that nonsense on to others because you just come off sounding like a fool.
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Sorry to not be a girly man like you.

 
And that's what happens when businesses sell. Whether to a rival, an unknown, or even to an employee or employees. There is a loss of some customers who don't like it for whatever reason. Treestuff developed a brand. Some of you should try it, that's what people identify with. Its business plain and simple, for e.g., Nike owns Converse. Do you stop buying them? Some companies only differentiate on service not products. Where you don't find one product, you'll find it at the other. That may be due to exclusive agreements.

When all the business owners here are ready to retire, move on, spend more time with their families, etc.. just hope there's someone out there with deep pockets to buy your life's investment.
 
JustinK said:
I think the overall sentiment for a lot of us, and I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, is that TreeStuff earned a lot of their business by being what Sherrill wasn't. People found a good opportunity to go elsewhere other than Sherrill and did so, the. That got taken away from them. Yes TS brand may stay the same but a portion of what is spent there goes to the very people many were trying to avoid by going to TS.

As it was stated earlier... Principal.
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True. Well said. I agree with that and people are welcome to continue fleeing Sherrilltree if that is what they choose, but don't drag Luke and Erin through the mud in doing so. My other point is that Sherrilltree is also under new management.
 
Every business needs a succession plan. You will sell it, give it to your kids, or run it into the ground. But every business will change hands. Yours, mine and TreeStuff. May as well sell while the selling is good.
 
treevet said:
You are a quitter Luke in my opinion and you can take that under your beach umbrella with your bankroll.
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I have a 9 , 7 and 5 year old who think that mom is the only one who really cares about them and that dad loves work more than them. That's what I'm quitting.

Don't worry, Dave, I'll still be a workaholic for the rest of my life because I was raised by two tree people (who are in their mid 60s and running their company with no signs of slowing down).

Thank you guys. Your comments mean a lot to me and I will share them with Erin.
 
TreeStuff said:
I have a 9 , 7 and 5 year old who think that mom is the only one who really cares about them and that dad loves work more than them. That's what I'm quitting.

Don't worry, Dave, I'll still be a workaholic for the rest of my life because I was raised by two tree people (who are in their mid 60s and running their company with no signs of slowing down).

Thank you guys. Your comments mean a lot to me and I will share them with Erin.
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I will put my perspective on this my father has run his business since I was born (ag equipment repair). I joined the military will full intentions of going to war partly just so I would not get caught in the running he business crap. I didn't want work all hours of the day and night. I wanted to enjoy a life outside of work. So maybe just possibly Luke is trying to avoid his kids punching out right after grad. Or maybe he sees the pain his parents have experienced over the years and saw an opportunity "to know when to fold them" and did there so. I am not saying I like the merger just saying I can totally understand why the merger was done.
 
Can't knock him for his accomplishments and reasons. I wish I had the smarts and abilities to do what he has done. I think just WHO it went to is the thing that got most people. I'm sure if WesSpur or Bartlettman had the interest, and more importantly the funds, the negative feedback wouldn't have been as much. I think it's more of a hating the player (buyer)and not the game for a lot of folks.
 
TreeStuff said:
I have a 9 , 7 and 5 year old who think that mom is the only one who really cares about them and that dad loves work more than them. That's what I'm quitting.

Don't worry, Dave, I'll still be a workaholic for the rest of my life because I was raised by two tree people (who are in their mid 60s and running their company with no signs of slowing down).

Thank you guys. Your comments mean a lot to me and I will share them with Erin.
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Luke I don't begrudge you selling at all. If they gave you a knock out deal then all the better. But its the way you did it I don't like. It seems only a short while prior you were tearing strips of Sherrill in another thread....but then in the next breath you sell up to the very company you profess to despise. It leaves a lot of doubt. I understand things change, but you should have had the good manners to give us a heads up....the manufacturers that is. Maybe you were worried about a mass defection before the deal went down. Well I don't believe that would've happened, but that's just my opinion.
 
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