Trees from a distance

[TNTree_man]

Alright....let's try this.
This may be unfairly difficult. It is winter here so no foliage.
These two trees are growing here in NE TN, but they are non-native.

 

[tomthetreeman]

Hmmm...

Looks like Gleditsia triacanthos

or

Gymnocladus dioicus

???

-Tom

 

[TNTree_man]

nope....

This is tough....

the bark has a reddish coloring.

 

[banjo]

Its not to tough. Its what this game is all about!

 

[tomthetreeman]

When you say non-native, are we talking naturalized or exotic/invasive? What would you say the hardiness zone is, or have I ever seen one North of Jersey? How tall are the trees in your pic? 60-70?

-Tom

 

[TNTree_man]

I would have to say exotic. These could be considered very rare in the US, non invasive.

I am at the northern most extreme for their hardiness.

Good guess on size. They are fully mature, and probably 70' tall.

The bark color is, I guess, more of a cinnamon than red.

The leaves would be pinnate if they were on.

 

[theXman]

pinnately compound leaves? is that what u mean?

 

[theXman]

Is it in the genus Cassia?

 

[theXman]

first guess: Cassia grandis

2nd: Cassia leptophylla

3rd: Cassia fistula

 

[tomthetreeman]

Now that would be really funny if it were a Cassia, my guess on the DisneyWorld tree! What with leaving out 'grapefruit' and all!

-Tom

 

[TNTree_man]

Yes pinnately compound..sorry.

No not in the genus Cassia.

This might help....

Think Eastern hemisphere......

The young leaves and shoots are edible, as well as the sprouted seeds.

 

[tomthetreeman]

Caucasian Wingnut?

Just kidding. I'm stumped.

-Tom

(PS - You know you're going to Google that now, right?)

 

[TNTree_man]

You know I had to Google it.

I thought this might be unfairly tough.....I have way too many foriegn specimens.

I have one clue left that I will be willing to give, but it should be a dead givaway....

There is something "fishy" about this tree.

If that doesn't do it for you, use the clues that I have given....and the power of google....you should be able to come up with the answer.....I wont hold it against you......

I haven't researched it at all, but it would not surprise me to find out that these are two of probably a handful in the US.

They were, I believe, planted by the wife of the University's first president. The seeds do not germinate naturally here (no volunteers).

 

[TNTree_man]

native to china......zones 6-9.

 

[theXman]

i can't get it.

I'll throw out these two names anyway though:

Ceratonia siliqua

Cinnamomum zeylanicum

I'm done, unless there is an new clue that can help.

 

[trees4ever]

[ QUOTE ]
There is something "fishy" about this tree.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ginkgo biloba ?

-Diane-

 

[TNTree_man]

Not Ginko biloba....
or..
Ceratonia siliqua
or..
Cinnamomum zeylanicum

OK....too obscure....here it is

Toona sinensis, or Chinese Toon tree, Chinese Mohogany.
It is in the Meliaceae family.

"Native in China as far north as 40°N in the Beijing area, where its tender shoots, called xiangchun,..... are a traditional local leaf vegetable." (wikipedia)

Diane- I have always associated Ginko more with cat poo than fish. LOL

 

[tomthetreeman]

Why didn't you just say Roger Rabbit LOL?

-Tom

 

[TNTree_man]

HA!
That might have been a better clue.
For some reason when I tell people the name they always ask "Tuna? Like the fish?"
Wanna Toona sandwich?

 

[TNTree_man]

I forgot to grab my pics. disk from work before I left yesterday, so I will have to pass on the next post, if someone else would like a go.