Tree video drama

[southsoundtree]

It's weird.

I just saw another "oh, I shoulda..." video by the same YTer who had screwed up many jobs.

Poor judgment and unprepared.

"Shoulda put a rope in it" instead of trying to push a big top...seems like "I shoulda been prepared with wedges and pounder and not relied on groundworkers to stop working on other parts of the job or have a break while the climber does basic tree work that protects against set-back.


Tall conifers are hard to pull tops effectively at times as the line angle sucks.

Wedges put minimal strain on compromised trees. Pull ropes to tall tops have huge leverage on roots.

Too many people make tree work so much harder than needed, IME.

 

[evo]

Got a link to the video? I respect not trash talking but hard to get context.
If a tag is to be used for a large Doug fir top, best to manually set the line as high as possible, but then your up there anyway so just take a small top…
If doing it anyway tag line should be just snug enough to keep it taught until the climber has cut the backcut. Constant communication to avoid sitback with incremental cutting. Once the hinge is set a good strong consistent pull is all that should be needed.
No crazy preload, no yanking or tugging.
The more preload the more the entire tree moves before it’s cut up. Massive fishing pole and leverage with nothing other than problems

 

[Mick Dempsey!]

True about tall conifers. We don’t get as many (or probably as tall) as you but it’s hard to get far enough away to get a decent rope angle.

 

[southsoundtree]

Got a link to the video? I respect not trash talking but hard to get context.
If a tag is to be used for a large Doug fir top, best to manually set the line as high as possible, but then your up there anyway so just take a small top…
If doing it anyway tag line should be just snug enough to keep it taught until the climber has cut the backcut. Constant communication to avoid sitback with incremental cutting. Once the hinge is set a good strong consistent pull is all that should be needed.
No crazy preload, no yanking or tugging.
The more preload the more the entire tree moves before it’s cut up. Massive fishing pole and leverage with nothing other than problems

When you where a kid did you hear, "I'll give you three guesses and the first 2 don't count"?

 

[southsoundtree]

An easy option to improve the line- angle of a pull rope is to use floating anchor point as a redirect that can be remotely set and retrieved.

You must mind the rope lengths. If your pulling with a redirect at 20' on a top that's 50' away is a different story than pulling at 50' on a top thats 20' away.




side note:
When I'm dealing with rope, including throwline, I'm away ready, and do, throw the line away from me once the job is accomplished ( tree committed to falling, hanger snagged by throwline). This is a good time.

 

[Serf Life]

He's one of the content folks where I wonder if it's sometimes on purpose for views.

 

[Jehinten]

It's weird.

I just saw another "oh, I shoulda..." video by the same YTer who had screwed up many jobs.

Poor judgment and unprepared.

"Shoulda put a rope in it" instead of trying to push a big top...seems like "I shoulda been prepared with wedges and pounder and not relied on groundworkers to stop working on other parts of the job or have a break while the climber does basic tree work that protects against set-back.


Tall conifers are hard to pull tops effectively at times as the line angle sucks.

Wedges put minimal strain on compromised trees. Pull ropes to tall tops have huge leverage on roots.

Too many people make tree work so much harder than needed, IME.

I saw that clip pop up on fb but I skipped past it. The quality of work and the amount of new people who watch that channel for "education" bothers me to the point where I won't watch any of his content to avoid adding to his views. As said above, I do think he does some of this stuff for additional views, along with the click bait titles that draw viewers in to see what went wrong.

 

[data farm 26]

whO?

 

[flushcut]

It's weird.

I just saw another "oh, I shoulda..." video by the same YTer who had screwed up many jobs.

Poor judgment and unprepared.

"Shoulda put a rope in it" instead of trying to push a big top...seems like "I shoulda been prepared with wedges and pounder and not relied on groundworkers to stop working on other parts of the job or have a break while the climber does basic tree work that protects against set-back.


Tall conifers are hard to pull tops effectively at times as the line angle sucks.

Wedges put minimal strain on compromised trees. Pull ropes to tall tops have huge leverage on roots.

Too many people make tree work so much harder than needed, IME.

More people look at a train wreck than not. I think it’s all for views. I rarely see quality tree work on the inter web anymore. Lack of PPE, lack of skill, look at me fuckery to get views and comments. So for the most part I stop looking at their crap.

 

[Matias]

When you where a kid did you hear, "I'll give you three guesses and the first 2 don't count"?

It's sad that at this point, I don't really watch his stuff anymore, but I know exactly who.

 

[evo]

When you where a kid did you hear, "I'll give you three guesses and the first 2 don't count"?

That just sounds treeasonous

 

[Boomslang]

Looks guilty to me

 

[Bart_]

Someone could chair a discussion of cheap clone saws or felling leaners.