The tree guys :)

An admittedly cool vid, but hardly a detailed instructional video teaching the dos and don'ts of crane assisted tree takedowns TV.

Reg's vids are far more informative and detailed in my opinion.

Jomoco
 
Don't think Reg is an ISA member. Lots and lots, say thousands and thousands of guys out there doing exactly what Reg does every day if ISA chooses to make a dedicated crane assisted tree removal vid with members.

Until then, why not just hit the youtube and watch Reg vids that are already on there if that is what you call state of the art.

Most of these guys like you might do 3 or 4 crane removals in a year or two (or career). They evolve with the standards if they are aware enough to join trade associations and go to seminars.

If not...they die...maybe.

Can't blame the ISA for that can you son?

Guys that do them every day ...well...they ARE evolved.

Standards (ansi) are what you are looking for...they are out there if you got a few bucks in your pocket. Is anybody gonna make all these standards into video form?...I doubt it.

Chisolm's made a vid years ago I got in my library. Lot of people have negative things to say about it. At least they made one. Hard to be comprehensive and/or stay with standards as they are always evolving (the creed of ANSI) and videos are stagnant as they are graven in stone.

nuther good art. http://www.tcia.org/Articles/Safety/TCI0608CraneUse.htm
 
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Most of these guys like you might do 3 or 4 crane removals in a year or two (or career). They evolve with the standards if they are aware enough to join trade associations and go to seminars.



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It's lofty uninformed assumptions like this that tell me you're an insecure bookish wanna be climber, more secure in your books and trade journals than you'll ever be in a challenging tree takedown TV.

I'd like you to prove me wrong by posting up pics or vids of you doing anything remotely challenging in a tree just once?

Reg and others may not be card carrying ISA members, but at least they post pics and vids of themselves doing challenging takedowns. Rather than talk so condescendingly about others they no little or nothing about from the safety of their library as you do so annoyingly........son.

Jomoco
 
I have a pretty low opinion of the ISA's behavior, I've been suspicious of the organization ever since I first learned they had copyrighted the term, "Certified Arborist'. That's a for-profit, anti-competitive maneuver that is equivalent to IBM copyrighting ones and zeros or a drug company copyrighting parts of the human genome. It's a bullshit move and speaks volumes about the interests of the ISA board of Directors and it's executive management policy.

I haven't seen the ISA do much of anything for it's members without charging a high price. The pub prices are simply absurd. Without the monopoly they currently enjoy, the ISA would be a very different organization. They NEED competition.

There, I said it. Flame all you want, that's my studied opinion. I would LOVE for the ISA to prove me wrong by serving it's members with at least a little magnanimity rather than extracting cash from them at every opportunity.
 
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I have a pretty low opinion of the ISA's behavior, I've been suspicious of the organization ever since I first learned they had copyrighted the term, "Certified Arborist'. That's a for-profit, anti-competitive maneuver that is equivalent to IBM copyrighting ones and zeros or a drug company copyrighting parts of the human genome. It's a bullshit move and speaks volumes about the interests of the ISA board of Directors and it's executive management policy.

I haven't seen the ISA do much of anything for it's members without charging a high price. The pub prices are simply absurd. Without the monopoly they currently enjoy, the ISA would be a very different organization. They NEED competition.

There, I said it. Flame all you want, that's my studied opinion. I would LOVE for the ISA to prove me wrong by serving it's members with at least a little magnanimity rather than extracting cash from them at every opportunity.

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Aren't a couple stickers good enough for you? Shoot, I wanna become a Certified Arborist for the stickers!
 
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Most of these guys like you might do 3 or 4 crane removals in a year or two (or career). They evolve with the standards if they are aware enough to join trade associations and go to seminars.



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It's lofty uninformed assumptions like this that tell me you're an insecure bookish wanna be climber, more secure in your books and trade journals than you'll ever be in a challenging tree takedown TV.

I'd like you to prove me wrong by posting up pics or vids of you doing anything remotely challenging in a tree just once?

Reg and others may not be card carrying ISA members, but at least they post pics and vids of themselves doing challenging takedowns. Rather than talk so condescendingly about others they no little or nothing about from the safety of their library as you do so annoyingly........son.

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You know...I don't take many vids or even picts as they interupt the flow of the job esp with a 2 manner like I gots. Maybe take a vid every month or two. Don't really consider this job that challenging anymore with all the schit I got. Wraptor up...75' bucket and 55', 25 ton rear mount crane with 105' of main, bc2000, couple of stumpers, etc etc. Working the rope wrench into my game now.

The one over the pool house was worrysome as the stick (only took half) was embedded in the roof and the weight bowed over the building.

The 52" dbh (measured) 120' oak (dif vid) was strategic as most of the north canopy was not only over the road and primaries but beyond the primaries...people wanting to comedown the sidewalk etc etc. I do so many high level removals they are routine and often forgotten. We get most of em in my area.

I am no good at video like Reg is a master. He has continuity and they are very watchable. Mine are sketchy. Often I am taking them only for my memory or a customer wants to see them. Or I like to fire one up from time to time on forums as pictures are boring for the most part.

Some like the pickup insert are just to show the Truckcraft Co why they better give me a warranty on something...and they did. Injection picts are evidence we injected a couple of ash for a local celebrity.

I don't have time to accommodate you with pictures as I got a ton of em and like I said, I do so many difficult (from your perspective I am thinkin) td's that it would be hard to pick em out of the small percent of all the jobs I do that I take picts on.

Some of these vids are old and we are onboard with the ppe thang now. I am not trying to teach anybody anything on these vids or on forums. Just hear for a laugh or two and to talk shop.

http://www.youtube.com/user/treemands?feature=watch

Now let's see your vids moco and pls. not the 0ld worn out 8mm one of you craning over the dinosaur zoo.
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The stickers ARE cool but frankly I value a red cross sticker on a helmet more than a CA.

I know lot's of CAs, most are top drawer arborists, but a lot more get the sticker and the number and go right back to business as usual topping trees and talking customers into taking down healthy ones. They don't re-up the certification but keep on using the logo and stating 'Certified Arborist' on all their signs and literature. Does the ISA do anything about it? No.

How can the CA remain valuable if it has no teeth. The CA designation is already degraded. I've been asked twice in seven years if I'm certified... both were takedown jobs, which the CA doesn't even address.

I feel bad talking about the ISA like this because I WANT them to be the stand up group they could be. Eleven years of non-profit experience gives me more insight into outfits like this than I want. They have a nice polished exterior but are often dark brown on the inside. It's just another way for a few people to get paid big and travel and eat out all the time.
 
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I have a pretty low opinion of the ISA's behavior, I've been suspicious of the organization ever since I first learned they had copyrighted the term, "Certified Arborist'. That's a for-profit, anti-competitive maneuver that is equivalent to IBM copyrighting ones and zeros or a drug company copyrighting parts of the human genome. It's a bullshit move and speaks volumes about the interests of the ISA board of Directors and it's executive management policy.

I haven't seen the ISA do much of anything for it's members without charging a high price. The pub prices are simply absurd. Without the monopoly they currently enjoy, the ISA would be a very different organization. They NEED competition.

There, I said it. Flame all you want, that's my studied opinion. I would LOVE for the ISA to prove me wrong by serving it's members with at least a little magnanimity rather than extracting cash from them at every opportunity.

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I agree stuff has become too expensive and even TCIA best practices Crane Book was $80.00 and bout as thick as a People Magazine, but we got so many door knockers and now it seems Landscapers are so desperate they are trying to bid on lots of tree jobs,

It is nice to have somebody giving a credential that the public maybe over estimates the importance of but often chooses you because of it.
 
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Most of these guys like you might do 3 or 4 crane removals in a year or two (or career). They evolve with the standards if they are aware enough to join trade associations and go to seminars.



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It's lofty uninformed assumptions like this that tell me you're an insecure bookish wanna be climber, more secure in your books and trade journals than you'll ever be in a challenging tree takedown TV.

I'd like you to prove me wrong by posting up pics or vids of you doing anything remotely challenging in a tree just once?

Reg and others may not be card carrying ISA members, but at least they post pics and vids of themselves doing challenging takedowns. Rather than talk so condescendingly about others they no little or nothing about from the safety of their library as you do so annoyingly........son.

Jomoco

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You know...I don't take many vids or even picts as they interupt the flow of the job esp with a 2 manner like I gots. Maybe take a vid every month or two. Don't really consider this job that challenging anymore with all the schit I got. Wraptor up...75' bucket and 55', 25 ton rear mount crane with 105' of main, bc2000, couple of stumpers, etc etc. Working the rope wrench into my game now.

The one over the pool house was worrysome as the stick (only took half) was embedded in the roof and the weight bowed over the building.

The 52" dbh (measured) 120' oak (dif vid) was strategic as most of the north canopy was not only over the road and primaries but beyond the primaries...people wanting to comedown the sidewalk etc etc. I do so many high level removals they are routine and often forgotten. We get most of em in my area.

I am no good at video like Reg is a master. He has continuity and they are very watchable. Mine are sketchy. Often I am taking them only for my memory or a customer wants to see them. Or I like to fire one up from time to time on forums as pictures are boring for the most part.

Some like the pickup insert are just to show the Truckcraft Co why they better give me a warranty on something...and they did. Injection picts are evidence we injected a couple of ash for a local celebrity.

I don't have time to accommodate you with pictures as I got a ton of em and like I said, I do so many difficult (from your perspective I am thinkin) td's that it would be hard to pick em out of the small percent of all the jobs I do that I take picts on.

Some of these vids are old and we are onboard with the ppe thang now. I am not trying to teach anybody anything on these vids or on forums. Just hear for a laugh or two and to talk shop.

http://www.youtube.com/user/treemands?feature=watch

Now let's see your vids moco and pls. not the 0ld worn out 8mm one of you craning over the dinosaur zoo.
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Wow, feels like I'm conducting an interview with someone full of B S.
 
That's your idea of being a takedown climber TV?

OK, forget any vids TV.

How bout just one pic of you in action in the top of a tree?

No boring bucket shots, just you climbing in even a small takedown?

Jomoco
 
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How bout just one pic of you in action in the top of a tree?

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You lookin for an as s shot?

You got a woodie for me don't ya? I don't swing that way Buster.
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The stickers ARE cool but frankly I value a red cross sticker on a helmet more than a CA.

I know lot's of CAs, most are top drawer arborists, but a lot more get the sticker and the number and go right back to business as usual topping trees and talking customers into taking down healthy ones. They don't re-up the certification but keep on using the logo and stating 'Certified Arborist' on all their signs and literature. Does the ISA do anything about it? No.

How can the CA remain valuable if it has no teeth. The CA designation is already degraded. I've been asked twice in seven years if I'm certified... both were takedown jobs, which the CA doesn't even address.

I feel bad talking about the ISA like this because I WANT them to be the stand up group they could be. Eleven years of non-profit experience gives me more insight into outfits like this than I want. They have a nice polished exterior but are often dark brown on the inside. It's just another way for a few people to get paid big and travel and eat out all the time.

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Blinky, with the reading I have been doing online I definitely see where you are coming from! They are kind of like the government it many not so great ways it seems. I would like to clarify that I was kidding about only being in it for the sticker. I truly have a passion for tree care and want to learn all I can to be the best I can at what I do.
 
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Something that at least proves you're not a pathetic old bucket bound blowhard?

jomoco

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post of the year.
 
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Something that at least proves you're not a pathetic old bucket bound blowhard?

jomoco

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post of the year.

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post of your rear
 
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Come on TV, surely you have a few pics of yourself taking a tree down?

Even a run of the mill removal like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8bFWsC7n...mp;feature=plcp

Or this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZebMnelEA...mp;feature=plcp

Something that at least proves you're not a pathetic old bucket bound blowhard?

jomoco

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eeeeek ...I can't take anymore...how slow can you get...that ole pathetic speed line vid I've seen over and over.

You need to clean out your fingernails son. You really gross.

Invent any more useless stuff lately?
 
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