The Splicing Thread

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Alright, I figured I'd start this up for those of us who are fresh of the splicing symposium and others who have questions regarding splicing. I have 2 to start the thread out.

1. Is Bull Rope a hollow braid type rope we can use to create larger slings.

2. If I remember right, Zing It is a hollow braid type construction. If that's right, can I use a brummel or locking brummel to create an eye in one end, and either a traditional hollow braid type splice or an inverted locking brummel in the other end.
 
To my understanding (though it may be a regional term) "bull rope" = "the big rigging line." It could be three-strand, single braid, or double braid...anything really. Some say your rigging slings should be bigger than your rigging line.

Zing-it is a hollow braid. It is easiest spliced by a straight bury. Strength is of no importance for the Zing-it splice. It is merely a splice of convenience.

love
nick
 
Stable Braid and Super Braid bull ropes are double braid... 5/8" stable braid makes great eye slings, easy to splice even if its well used. I wouldn't want to splice Super Braid even if it was new... tight, waxy and stiff.

I straight bury Zing-it but I stitch it because it will come apart when not under tension... I've had a groundie disassemble my splice because the couldn't figure out how to un-girth hitch a throwball. Dental floss is perfect for stitching it.
 
For zing-it I have a little wire fid made from .021" piano wire. Takes about 2 minutes to make an eye... the stitching takes longer though.

As for length I just overdo it... my buries are around 10" with the last 5" of that stitched. I just do a little helical pattern dropping down about 1/8" and over a wee bit with each stitch.

The new avatar looks good. Was that a leaner? Looks like you bored the center of the hinge.
 
Cool, sounds good!

And I didn't fall the tree, just posed for the pic!

But yes, it was a leaning white Ash. They wanted the log for a table and it had to be set down in a little lay we had set up. We had a tractor pulling a bit to give it the extra push. Standard face cut and standard back cut, went right where we wanted it to go.
 
Well, I did one end of my new 2.2mm Zing It just now. As my first Zing It Splice, I feel it turned out pretty well. I could have buried it a but more though, I only buried it about 6 or 7 inchs. The other end I'll bury a bit more, around 9 or 10 inches.
 
Honestly- if we stuck by the "class II" splice, the bury is what, 2 fids (or is it three?). 2.25mm x 2 fid lengths for that size comes out to just under a 4" bury.

Another idea: Bury about 20 or so inches. The end of the rope will be fat and easy to hold on to (which equals more accurate throws!)

love
nick
 
Ranger:

Bull Rope is typically a double braid product, the two common ones out there are Stable Braid from Samson and the Husky line from All Gear. Both are polyester covers over nylon cores.

The splice is a "Class 1" splice as described in the Samson book.

Hope that helps a bit.
 
Thanks John. I'm steering clear of double braid for a bit. Going to stick to 16 strand and hollow braid and get those down for now. When we get some extra cash we hope to order some 1/2 and 5/8 Tenex for some slings and such.
 
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It could be used in Charlotte the first week in April. Our trees are notoriously dirty.



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Holy whipping, dude!!!

Looks sharp. It sorta looks like you buried more tail to make it stiffer. Am I just seeing things?

I've found doing that minimizes "Indiana Jonesing" when retrieving the FS.

Nice work.

love
nick
 
Whipping??

Alright, I'm curious on the different styles of whipping. What I normally do is lock stitch my splice and then put a regular style whipping on it. But I see others that do a type of lock whipping. I don't know if that's the correct term, but it looks like it combines the lock stitch and whipping into one.

So my question is, is one better than the other or is the locked whipping just faster to do. Also, where would I find directions to do that type of whipping.
 
Re: Whipping??

The Nick Whiplock or Yale Whiplock are good ways to finish splices and ends. Sometimes I'll add a lockstitch down near the end of a bury just to keep it from backing out when it's not under tension.
 
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