The advantages of working from a bucket (MEWP)???

Hi guys i was hoping you could help me out.

Ive worked from MEWPS a fair bit but not as much as some; i have to make a presentation on MEWP use outlining the pro's & cons etc & run through the H&S jazz.

here's some to get started:

Less exertion than climbing & you can carry more/heavyer tools without having to lug them about

they can allow better positioning for certian cuts (that said they are worse for others)

Your movement isn't restricted by a weak anchor or unions etc

Rescue can be easyer, providing there are full ground controls..........................

All constructive input greatly apriciated, is allways good to hear others perspectives.
 
You can easily reach the outer tips of branches for prunign and reduction cuts, allowing you the mobility to make many smaller cuts, far away from the main stem, where the tree can easily compartmentalize, and where there is no chance of decay moving into the main stem, and where the smallest amount of damage to the tree (loss of green leaves) gives the most relief structuarally due to leverage.

Fatigue factors are huge..

allows climber to rig larger pieces increasing productivity with sinificantly reduced concerns for the increased laoding's potential to cuase the tree to fail, or even shake him out of the hooks.

Often easier to postion properly for better body position relative to the cut, and thus less chance that climber will one hand a saw, or over reach in critical situation. Though when the bucket is just short of the cut, that can cause a tendency to over reach.

CON: operator is more inclined to one hand a saw to remove limbs rather than lower them, which he would otherwise be foreced to do if climbing. Note: this can be rememdied by carrying a sharp handsaw, which allows a bucket operator to either make an entire cut with the handsaw or start a cut with the chainsaw and finish with the handsaw, when handling the piece with his free hand.

Blocking down a spar is in particularly safer and faster, as the climber is forced to repostion his tie in point with every cut, leving him in a situation where he is vulberable should his gafs kcik out when repositioning the line.

Also, after making the cut and setting the rigging for negative blocking a spar, the operator can reposition the bucket to the top of the piece, and push a piece off the spar by hand, rather than having to install a pull line or cut a deep notch, or use other hand tools to lift the piece off the cut. This makes less work for the ground crew, and puts them in less risk of getting a pry bar dropped on their heads.

Con: when cabling, if the bucket cannot reach the proper height to set the cable, there is a large tendency to take the path of least reisitance and just set the cable as high as the bucket will reach.

Greater chance of poking oneself in the eye, or getting scratched up in the bucket as it is far easier to lose sense of one's position relative branches and obstacle limbs, when moving the bucket.

I think there is also a greater risk for struck by on the ground. when running a bucket, as there is a tendency to cut far many more pieces and bomb them from a bucket, whereas they would be roped down by a climber. With the tendency to cut and chuck more, comes greater danger to the ground crew, as the chances of pieces taking a bad bounce increase.

Improper maintencance can casue catastrophic failure and kill a bucket operator through no fault of his own.
 
cheers viking, beet me to it, thanks for the input daniel; when you said "allows climber to rig larger pieces increasing productivity with sinificantly reduced concerns for the increased laoding's potential to cuase the tree to fail" are you suggesting that the climbers weight on the tree increases the chance of it failing? i get you 100% on not being shaken out, some people do have a tendancy to rig too big from a mewp causing equipment failure; I'll allways remember a hobbs shooting up a tree when i was a wee lad on placement in hampshire even though it had been cut into the stem, made an awsome noise & luckely no one was hurt.

keep them comming guys, i remember a freind who worked in the satates saying that the bucket truck had an air line running up the boom & they used it to power drills when bracing, are these systems any good? i imagine you'd need a big CFM to power a large drill?
 
Don't forget that some trees want to succumb to gravity more readily than others. Sometimes the chance of them doing it during the removal process is high. That's when I like to use a bucket.

Also helpful when training new ground persons to lower. I'm getting too seasoned to be takin' unnecessary slamming around
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Oh and for you hard core guys at the spikeless removal thread: I never wear my spurs on bucket removals. Tried it once just tore up the liner.
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Back atcha micahel!


I will be able to tell you more real soon. Tommorow morning our brand butt spankin new 18.90 spiderlift arrives, and I have a 4 hour training session with it. YAY!!!
 
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Oh and for you hard core guys at the spikeless removal thread: I never wear my spurs on bucket removals. Tried it once just tore up the liner.
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Re: The advantages of working from a bucket (MEWP)

So were saying that working from a bucket gives us the security to 'push it' when rigging as the tree wil meerly dammge property? as long as the ground staff & base of the MEWP (bucket truck) are clear? I agree with that such occourances can proove to be a valuable learning expeeriance without the risk of a fall.

a friend got a spot of wander lust the other week, deciding he would load his rigging line to destruction & learnt allot from it, no targets below other than some lawn, his rope was easily the weakest link & he's come up with an interesting experiment to try next time the opertunity presents.

Viking: if only i had the work to buy more big equipment, any pics?
 
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So were saying that working from a bucket gives us the security to 'push it' when rigging as the tree wil meerly dammge property? as long as the ground staff & base of the MEWP (bucket truck) are clear?

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I can only speak for my own comments, but that was not my intention at all. In fact the opposite is true. On compromised trees actively seeking he comfort of lying on the ground, I use a bucket to get me out of that equation. This leaves me the option of rigging smaller pieces and easing the transfer of potential to kinetic energy. (i.e. cutting the damn thing down)

The bucket also serves as a nice safety valve should my plans go awry and will allow me to contemplate my failure over a few cold drinks later.

The bucket is a tool no more no less. The only thing it really changes in my rigging plan is where I stand when I make the cuts. The idea of purposefully going bigger just because there is "only property" to damage is a bit silly to my way of thinking and certainly not customer service oriented!

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Re: The advantages of working from a bucket (MEWP)

i thought that was the case, just trying to act devils advocate to tease your thoughts out of you and they're much apriciated.

So we are less tempted to cut big to save on energy as were sat in the bucket allowing us to rig smaller, the better positiong also aiding us to snatch smaller legths as we can tie are knots more securely without them then 'popping off' when snatching?

when i said 'just property' i ment maby a crappy lawn that is getting re-done later in the year or somthin like that, I wouldn't dream of risking damaging property un-nesiserily.

any more benifits of 'this tool'? does no one use the ones with pnewmatic hook ups any more then? or are they not worth using even if you have them?
 

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