Tenex onto friction saver ring?

[JeffL]

Finally ordered myself up a bunch of stuff to play with, and am mulling over the idea of making myself another few friction savers, or at least attempt to, to get the experience, and work towards a finished product that is correct and safely constructed.

What I'm wondering is if I were to make a short prussik loop on a small ring for adjustment, what is the best way to go about this? Best is subjective, but I suppose "cleanliness" and compact is what I'd aim for, similar to the manufactured grizzly splice on sherrills products.

I'd think a straight bury would be the simplest solution, I'd like the security of the locking brummell added in. Would it be possible to splice both ends onto the ring utilizing the locking brummel? Or would even the simplest solution be an end to end splice, and girth hitch it to the ring?

 

[rfwoodvt]

end to end would allow you to move the girth to allow for more even wear on the rope.

I've gone away from ringed FS units and now use an HMS Biner on the fixed part and oval biner with pulley on the tenex adjustable end. I use an eye & eye tenex prussick 3/8 inch and 1/2 inch as the situation calls for.

Sweet, Simple and easy to fabricate a new one in the field if I forgot mine or need a quick replacement.

 

[NickfromWI]

Jeff- you cannot put a locked brummell on BOTH eyes onto a ring without completely unbraiding the rope and weaving it back together (which I love doing, by the way!)

Most people will handle this by doing a locked brummell on one eye with a shorter tail, then a straight bury on the other eye with I think (I'd have to look it up) a 2 fid-length'ed tail on the straight bury.

The loop idea would work, too. But if you can splice, wear isn't a worry because you can always just easily make a new one anyways!

love
nick

 

[JeffL]

Excellent input, thanks guys.

I've got some tech cord coming from knot and rope too I'm going to try for some prussiks, that can be spliced just like any other 12 strand hollow braid correct? Locking brummels with tapered, overlapping buries?

 

[TimberJack]

allgear has great instructions on their web site for the tech cord

 

[Norm_Hall]

Why not splice it into a loop? You can use locking brummels on either end then. I've done it.

 

[NickfromWI]

Or you splice an eye-eye sling w/ 4" eyes and girth hitch each eye to the ring...

 

[JeffL]

It'd be going on the small ring, girthing 2 ends on would eat up alot of space, even running a 7/16 rope through it. I could always end to end splice a loop and have the ring inside the loop, that'd be pretty clean.

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

I girth it it works great.

 

[grappleyarder]

Hi All

First post here. Would this be a nice little project for that Tenex. Anyone used a similar FS? Really enjoying the forum...

http://www.allgearinc.com/AGARS3810-48.htm

 

[familytree]

Great idea but I have a hard time with the idea of using a loosely woven hollow braid as a retrievable false crotch. To me it just seems like the strands are begging to be picked to death by included bark or tough branch bark ridges.

 

[Norm_Hall]

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Great idea but I have a hard time with the idea of using a loosely woven hollow braid as a retrievable false crotch. To me it just seems like the strands are begging to be picked to death by included bark or tough branch bark ridges.

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I agree.
There are much better rope constructions suited for FS's. A hollow braid would be an extremely poor choice, unless it has a "sleeve". I have 2 hollow braid FS's, but both have tube webbing over them to eliminate the 'picking'.

 

[moray]

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...To me it just seems like the strands are begging to be picked to death by included bark or tough branch bark ridges.

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I have a couple made from Tenex, and so far no problems at all. Of course it won't stand up like a double-braid to really hard use (meaning rubbing under load), but I can replace one in about 10 minutes. If you count easy and cheap replacement into the equation, Tenex and its cousins start to look pretty good.

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

I use the tech cord from all gear,its alot tighter than tenex.

 

[Sam Hodgson]

Jimmy I'm coming to texas so you can teach me your tricks

 

[banjo]

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...To me it just seems like the strands are begging to be picked to death by included bark or tough branch bark ridges.

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I have a couple made from Tenex, and so far no problems at all. Of course it won't stand up like a double-braid to really hard use (meaning rubbing under load), but I can replace one in about 10 minutes. If you count easy and cheap replacement into the equation, Tenex and its cousins start to look pretty good.

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How often are they used? I'm talking about hours per day and days per week?

 

[Crazy_Jimmy]

When Sam will put you to work.

 

[Sam Hodgson]

I might be going right past you at the end of october for a wedding once I find out if were going ill let ya know. Maybe I could stop by and say hi.

 

[Waldo]

one thing i would do different with the whoopie sling FS, is switch the position of the large ring and the small ring. So when you pull your line out you pull the least amount of cord through the crotch.