Taking top without limbing.

Tayer · Dec 7, 2020

RogerM said:
how big/ tall of a piece and what's the final "privacy/habitat"
height supposed to be?

Maybe 70’-80’ and trying to leave it 40’-50’ depending what I have for remaining branches

Daniel · Dec 8, 2020

not many white pines go over 100 feet around here

evo · Dec 9, 2020

cerviarborist said:
That's kinda smushed on one side.

Got two of em in the truck right now

Mowerr · Dec 9, 2020

dsptech said:
Mower, where abouts are you?
Marshy and I are in the CNY.

Capital region...near Saratoga springs...does CNY mean central ny?

dsptech · Dec 9, 2020

Mowerr said:
Capital region...near Saratoga springs...does CNY mean central ny?

Yep.
2.5 hours drive from me.

Mowerr · Dec 10, 2020

dsptech said:
Yep.
2.5 hours drive from me.

Lmk if y'all are ever doing a rec climb or something...I do work about an hour south in the schodack/Nassau area

Tayer · Dec 16, 2020

For anyone Interested I did the toping ending up limbing a lot. Sent one top freely the other two got hung up rigging but I used two ropes so I could come down and unsnag them at the same time. Tree was probably 110’ after being there again.

southsoundtree · Dec 16, 2020

View work?

Tayer · Dec 16, 2020

No storm work top blew out on one of the stems and they wanted to remove the other one.

southsoundtree · Dec 18, 2020

Are you saying a storm broke a top, and the customer wanted it to "match"?

Tayer · Dec 19, 2020

southsoundtree said:
Are you saying a storm broke a top, and the customer wanted it to "match"?

No storm blew out one top. I removed it and inspected the rest of the tree and suggested removal the customer said can we take the top out and leave the rest for “privacy and wood peckers” sounded good to me less wood to haul. I’m sure someone will have a problem with the topping but that’s what he wanted and could afford.

Seth McPherson · Dec 19, 2020

Tayer said:
No storm blew out one top. I removed it and inspected the rest of the tree and suggested removal the customer said can we take the top out and leave the rest for “privacy and wood peckers” sounded good to me less wood to haul. I’m sure someone will have a problem with the topping but that’s what he wanted and could

Tayer said:
No storm blew out one top. I removed it and inspected the rest of the tree and suggested removal the customer said can we take the top out and leave the rest for “privacy and wood peckers” sounded good to me less wood to haul. I’m sure someone will have a problem with the topping but that’s what he wanted and could afford.

There are some instances like these where I think topping is appropriate. Some tree is better than no tree if the hazard is mitigated

dspacio · Dec 23, 2020

Chaplain242 said:
I have done this quite a few times on even bigger tops, and it is dangerous. Last resort and usually used where getting the top through the canopy has issues. It is a risky technique.
...
If I feel I have to do this, I lean the top over above where the slice cut is installed using kerf cuts and cut wedges or use dead twigs as wedges. I also set pull line to stop the top rotating back over the spar.

Thanks for this description, I dealt with this exact thing today. ~60ft thin oak, taking the top half out before falling the rest. I got a tagline up above me, but only about 10 feet up a slim 30' top. The drop was bound to get caught up in other oaks all around. I made a standard hinge. sure enough the tips caught and fall stopped. I released more and the butt slid down the notch and I kept my face down. I got away with minor scrapes. It was the last cut of the day so I knew it was danger zone. but I had no other idea, the trunk above me was thin and showing rot above a weak crotch, and darkness approached.

It had me thinking of the slice cut on the way home. It's the effect I ended up with, basically. Your ideas here are great. Still a last resort, but at least with some things to help it along. Thanks.

CutHighnLetFly · Dec 23, 2020

Tayer said:
Maybe 70’-80’ and trying to leave it 40’-50’ depending what I have for remaining branches

Just looked yoi up 9n Instagram. I'm out on Cape Cod.

Tayer · Dec 29, 2020

CutHighnLetFly said:
Just looked yoi up 9n Instagram. I'm out on Cape Cod.

Nice let me know if you ever wanna link up for a rec climb I’m one of the only climbers I know locally and definitely one of the only ones who climb for fun.

CutHighnLetFly · Dec 29, 2020

Tayer said:
Nice let me know if you ever wanna link up for a rec climb I’m one of the only climbers I know locally and definitely one of the only ones who climb for fun.

Did I see you post a little mini grcs someone had some fun makin??

Christrees · Dec 30, 2020

Mowerr said:
Where abouts in the north east are you? I'm in New York upstate...

Where you at in new york.? Im between syarcuse and canada. Im like 30-40 miles from canada. 60 from syaracuse. In Watertown ny

Christrees · Dec 30, 2020

Mowerr said:
Capital region...near Saratoga springs...does CNY mean central ny?

Oh ok i see where your at now. Ive been to Saratoga springs before. I think it was 2 or 3 hours away idk it was along time ago. Just wondering because i dont know many climbers around here. Just haven't reached out to them.

Mowerr · Dec 31, 2020

Christrees said:
Oh ok i see where your at now. Ive been to Saratoga springs before. I think it was 2 or 3 hours away idk it was along time ago. Just wondering because i dont know many climbers around here. Just haven't reached out to them.

Yeah I know where your at too...your right it's far, I been there a time or 2. Lmk if ya wanna meet up sometime maybe somewhere in between... I think @Jonny is in Buffalo or somewhere close to you.
It's hard finding guys that do this for rec in New York.
But if you do decide you'd like to come out this way sometime I've got a lot of land and spots we could climb and not get in trouble.