Take it Bigger !

"That's what it is really about not the size but the thought process in choosing the piece and method of getting it on the ground."

I love working with other skilled climbers/arborists to see how others approach cuts and rigging. Sometimes we see the same thing, sometimes we weigh different approaches, and come up with the best solution.

-Tom
 
Now I said the tree was "so dead" and when it was dropped there was 3 inch holding wood at the base . The tree had that look ( smooth bark , crack etc.), that it didn't want to be messed with , so I tickled it to death and I laughed all the way to the bank . This guy heard my rep for taken large piece's and I was sorry I couldn't represent at that time . It's that old bull story . Big chippers , big cranes , high production , it's the Now generation . The Old Bull is laughing . I could have taken the tree bigger but I would have took a chance and I would have exposed the groundmen as frauds .
 
The only time that I've ever had a climber take bigger pieces is during a training period. Like in Treehumpers example...a beginning rigger will take small pieces, which is good, until they need to advance their skills and learn how to take larger pieces.

In Riggs case I'd hardly say that this was a training tree..hahaha! Those days are long gone!
 
Don't sweat it Riggs. Bigger is only better when nothing breaks. Ever see a bad tree fail under pressure? Yeah, me too.
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We were taking out a group of sassafras trees. I had a good center one for Steve to tip tie one at a time and lower to the ground first one went fine, second one had a lean on it. I cranked it up the best I could but once I cut it from the ground it pulled the whole tree out of the ground we had it rigged to. Took the chance and failed. Trees fell into a row of weed trees as a buffer to a farm feild. Broke a couple Alanthis trees nothing to really worry about. I was happy I had told Steve to swing over to one of the other trees and retie in after setting the block just in case something bad happened.
 
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Any thoughts on this situation?

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In the military if'in you don't follow orders then uumm you might find yourself with a nose clip and poop pale.

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Alot of men have died while following orders in the military!
 
Just took down a big 120+' Tulip. Lightning struck so it was in bad shape though I could tie in to the main lead. Worked with a great crane operator for the first time and it was sweet. Though we could've picked bigger we went smaller so the groundmen weren't overwhelmed. Smooth as silk and plenty of time to spare.
 
Try using two slings 180 deg opposite that are equally loaded. That will keep the pick vertical. Also the big pine logs are usually lighter than the charts will say, because of the higher percentage of heartwood. We also have been using a big shackle to help the sling choke down smoothly.
 
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My boss always says, "Take time to save time." It holds true in cases like Riggs'.

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I don't recall to many bosses like that
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But screw it and the same goes for " persons" on the ground.
Hey Riggs, do you work for a few diferent guys or is it the same everyday. I used to work for a few diferent guys but it was the same.
If I get that kind of crap and the " person" on the ground has no clue I usually let my emotions out... after, of course, a good time of watching the circus. But if I hear that from someone with good experiance I just ask for a demonstration of how he would cut the freaking branch.
I am not saying I reign supreme but there is one thing I have learned and that is:

I'm a smooth operator ( sing everbody)
smoooooth operator ( you can swing your hips if you want)
I'm a smooth operater... and it takes the whole team.( jeez, I am just one guy)


But I have also to say that it might have been more than just the one " go bigger". I imagine ,Riggs, that you might not really respect this " person" from the get.
 
James, it was with another company.

HR, read man, 120+'. You know there's taller up in the Skyland area and else where.

The stem had been virtually quartered by the lightning strike about half way up.

It was an easy day Jamin'. There another one coming up, a 40"DBH pin oak with a 15' split in the main stem dividing the crown in half and a 30"DBH pin in serious decline.
 
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