Sugoi or Ibuki?

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I have a Sugoi and Zubat...the Z is smaller.

For a "big" saw, the Sugoi is very good...cuts extremely well. When I look at picts of the Sugoi and the Ibuki the major difference seems to be the curved/cutting tip of the Sugoi. I like the curved end for occasional vines or small stuff but also use it a good bit to hook a line when I can't quite reach it.

Sugoi for me.
 
I think the Ibuki is slightly longer and has rougher cutting teeth, so it cuts faster.

Saw a Gomtaro style silky on their site with the back half rough, and the front half smooth teeth. Crazy!

also one for cutting through roots.
 
What will you be using the saw for? I use mine mostly only for removals, so cut quality isn't important.

That said, it IS a silky, it cut's VERY nicely and is most definitely "pruning worthy."

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I have only used a Sugoi. The scabbard broke after two or three weeks of light use. The saw cuts fast but has a tendency to tear the cut. It is an awesome saw for removals but I wouldn't use it on a fine trim.
 
I like the zubat the most. We have both the Sugoi and the Ibuki at work and I can't say I use either one, probably cause all we have are right handed scabbards for both (Im a lefty). If we were doing a fine prune on an older tree I would probably just stick with my zubat because honestly I only see a small differnce in speed when both are sharpe. The Ibuki's blade can be used on the Hayauchi pole saw too so thats a plus! Good luck.
 
I carry a Zubat day to day, I have an Ibuki and find it heavy and not as qualified as my Zubat, I have a Sugoi and havent really challenged since I am happoy with my Zubat.
 
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Having used both the Sugoi(hook on handle and blade bad design) and Ibuki(too big and bad for pruning),I would avoid them both and go for the best allrounder for pruning and removals.

Silky Natanoko 60 (330mm) Photo

I have found this to be a a great saw.
 
I got an Ibuki and really dont like it at all. The blade is not crafted in the same manner as the zubat. This means you can hand sharpen it but it also is just not as sharp. I found my Zubat to out perform the ibuki on pretty much anything even the big stuff. I can not recall if the sugoi is ctrafted with the hardened steel, I havent used one besides at the trade shows, i think it looks pretty cool though which is why I voted for it. I love the gomtaro you are talking about with the two teeth types especially for pruning ornamentals or fruit trees. Dont try to tackle large branches with it though. I have busted off quite a few blades trying to get to aggresive with it. Cant say enough about the zubat.

A thing about all those blades is that when they pass their peak performance dont throw them away. I jerry rig a handle in bike intertube and athletic tape and give them to people as gifts. They still outperform any home depot saw that the average person might have access to. A good cardboard scabard will work for the regular guy.

This can also help one out who wants to buy a silky but doesnt want to pay 70 bucks. Just buy the blade and use any scabbard.
 
I use a Sugoi, I'm pretty sure it can be sharpened with a feather file... probably try that soon. The sugoi is well suited for dismantling. 1" hardwood limbs go in one or two pulls.

The big tooth/small tooth saw is the Prosentai (or something like that). I've heard good things about it and will probably buy one for pruning.
 
I use either a sugoi or a samurai, which is not a silky, and is smaller and finer. I pick the sugoi if I will be doing a lot of sawing, it takes the place of the chainsaw if there are just a few cuts. Fast, but a bit rough in comparison, I wouldn't use it for fine pruning small stuff. The only real disadvantage, I wear it on my calf and the handle is so big it occaisionally tries to catch my chainsaw lanyard. Been meaning to cut the end off, but haven't yet...
 
The dealer I asked (Proclimber in South West Wales) Said he thought the sugoi was a bit gimmicky and the ibuki cut through wood noticably faster. Any conflicting/supporting views?
 
My favorite is the Prosentei for fine pruning. I keep my sugoi in my pick up in place of a chainsaw for campfire type of stuff. the prosentei cuts just as fast on some woods (maybe because it's so much thinner?)
 
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