Honestly I scream wrench. I have never seen anyone taking huge swings on a hitch hiker ever. But again a bit unfair as nearly all my climbing friends run wrenches and runners. Up and down a rope nothing beats them. I do not care who loves the HH for work. But reccing in a tree nothing beats Singingtree. Sorry. I also take light over compact anyday. It is a preference. No sitback in a runner is king.....plus descents on a runner are unparalleled. Huge drop in swings on a runner is like ballet. All facts. Wrench too. HH seems mini and singingtree is ferrari.....just my 2 cents.
Suggestions for ropewalking gear?
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Love my wrench and ISC foot ascender, fabbed up a knee ascender with CT ascender which you can find many diy instructions on... Wrench is smooth and never kickout with the ISC (kickass company imo). Anyone test out the Camp Turbo with its integrated roller?
Have you ever used an HH, Swing? It eats big one-handed drops and swings for lunch like it was made special just for them. It is the best tool I have ever used in that regard. Not only can you drop like a rock, if that is what you want, you can do it over and over again and not wear it out doing so.
My response to the earlier post on carabiner slop being an issue would be, not for me. Most likely due to different climbing styles. Clip in, go up, no slop and no set-back when you stop. Going down, no slop, everything is tight. That leaves limb-walking and double-line work. All I can say, is keep slack out of the line, something we should all strive for, and tailing can be done with one hand. If during a climb a large amount of slack was introduced, such as advancing with a second line, just grab the HH with one hand and tail slack with the other. No floppy carabiner.
My response to the earlier post on carabiner slop being an issue would be, not for me. Most likely due to different climbing styles. Clip in, go up, no slop and no set-back when you stop. Going down, no slop, everything is tight. That leaves limb-walking and double-line work. All I can say, is keep slack out of the line, something we should all strive for, and tailing can be done with one hand. If during a climb a large amount of slack was introduced, such as advancing with a second line, just grab the HH with one hand and tail slack with the other. No floppy carabiner.
There it is there Scratch. Swing and DSMc, 2 extremely talented, high caliber climbers singing the praises of the Wrench and the HH2. Both are proven, super safe, smooth as glass, kick ass, end game products. Flip a coin, or pick the one that looks cooler, and get your narrow ass up that tree!
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Dave I have to say I have never used a HH. Only seen one climber use one and that is Richard. I have climbed and hung out with some of the best climbers around and they are all using a wrench or runner. Most wrench TBH. So I am limited in my knowledge about the device. I have always wanted to buy one but never have. Ì surely am not knocking it. Just have never seen it even used at a comp. One day I will buy one and see how it flies. I am being a bit biased and for that I am sorry.
Shoot, we're all biased, Swing. We must believe in the things that we trust our lives with. I actually try not to sound too over-the-top about the HH knowing it will not be the best tool for all those that try it. On the other hand, I am intimately acquainted with what it is capable of doing.
Scratch
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Thanks all. Looks like I can't really go wrong with any of the choices I'm considering and I'll probably just stick with a hybrid device for now. Still haven't decided on the wrench or one of the HH's, but I'm leaning toward the HHX, along with a SAKA mini and a CMI foot ascender.
Although I might just go with WesSpurs hybrid rope walker kit that comes with the HH2, SAKA mini, Turbo ascender, and Wever Chest box for 344.00. Anyone know of other places that sell a rope walking kit like that?
Although I might just go with WesSpurs hybrid rope walker kit that comes with the HH2, SAKA mini, Turbo ascender, and Wever Chest box for 344.00. Anyone know of other places that sell a rope walking kit like that?
CanadianStan
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1- you don’t need a fancy chest harness. A regular sling crosses over your back will do (like a backpack... or ArborBra)
2- if it’s the camp turbo foot ascender ... meh. I had one, wasn’t impressed. The rollers are a gimmick that get gunked up with sap really quick
Idk about the pricing but I would just get your device + Saka Mini + ct footie
Do that and they might just charge ya double?
Ha ha Eric true. Say David Stice sent ya instead....
Scratch
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Thanks for the advice about the Turbo. I figured they were all about the same, but I definitely want one that locks so I think I'll skip that one. I know the CT does and is lighter than the CMI so that's my number one choice right now, CMI second.
Scratch
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Oh, another question... Does it matter which side foot I buy for a foot ascender if I'm getting a SAKA mini? I'm right handed.
Jehinten
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Most people prefer that the foot ascender be on their dominant leg, however it really makes little difference. When your using both it is the same movement. The biggest difference/ concern is that you may choose to only use the foot ascender on a short ascent, just decide which leg you would prefer to do all of the work at those times.
... and then don't do that but instead use both legs by stepping on top of the foot ascender with your other foot. Just like a foot locking ascent.
WaitakKauri
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I see that order coming soon. Pic required once your comfortable with it.
I started with a mtn bike tube as my first chestie, that works pretty good and is comfy. Probably not a worry I'd you get the climbing kit. I rate the CT footie.
I started with a mtn bike tube as my first chestie, that works pretty good and is comfy. Probably not a worry I'd you get the climbing kit. I rate the CT footie.
Right foot and be done.
Scratch
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Is this a safe way to climb?
Last night I was at a party and was talking to an old friend who rock climbs. He said he's done a little recreational tree climbing too and was telling me about his setup.
He has a New Tribe saddle with a simple homemade lanyard setup. For climbing SRT, he uses a Petzl Ascension with an adjustable foot loop for his left foot made from a cam style trailer tie down strap. He uses a Petzl Pantin on his right foot. He "ropewalks" up the rope pushing the Ascension up as he lifts his left foot. He's tied into his saddle with a length of webbing to the Ascension.
When he gets to the top, he lanyards in, unhooks the two ascenders, then rappels down using a Petzl Stop or a figure 8.
It sounds safe to me, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing something... I have all of this minus the foot ascender and it seems pretty simple. If this IS an acceptable method of climbing, does it have a catchy name like RADS, Texas, Ropewalking, etc..
Last night I was at a party and was talking to an old friend who rock climbs. He said he's done a little recreational tree climbing too and was telling me about his setup.
He has a New Tribe saddle with a simple homemade lanyard setup. For climbing SRT, he uses a Petzl Ascension with an adjustable foot loop for his left foot made from a cam style trailer tie down strap. He uses a Petzl Pantin on his right foot. He "ropewalks" up the rope pushing the Ascension up as he lifts his left foot. He's tied into his saddle with a length of webbing to the Ascension.
When he gets to the top, he lanyards in, unhooks the two ascenders, then rappels down using a Petzl Stop or a figure 8.
It sounds safe to me, but wanted to make sure I'm not missing something... I have all of this minus the foot ascender and it seems pretty simple. If this IS an acceptable method of climbing, does it have a catchy name like RADS, Texas, Ropewalking, etc..
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