Stopping Tree Hackers in thier tracks

ha ha ha!!!!! Jesse, you are included man
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i try to tell everyone(not talk their head of of course)about why it is important to hire a certified ISA arborist and why topping tree's is a bad thing and only an ISA certified arborist will be able to service every tree need.

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Well.............you ought to be able to sell tree work without having to include lies in your sales pitch!

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No 2 CA's are created equally, nor any other tree workers. Some people choose not to become or not continue to be a CA for different reasons. This is not indicative of their skill sets.

A qualified individual is a qualified individual.

Not to stir the Code of Ethics pot, but CAs topping (aside from habitat trees, or was that not included) and spike pruning are parts of the Ethics that the ISA was trying to enforce (professional practices up to industry standards).

A CA cert is only a basic certification that requires continuing education credits.

You're thoughts are in the right place to a degree, but I would suggest that you point to the ANSI (a300?) standards of practice.

I would suspect that most CAs, including myself, have the least skill of the all the testing domains in pests and treatment, along with fertilization "needs" and proper application.

As arborists, we should train our weaknesses as much or more than our strengths.

I'd suggest a photodocumentation of good and bad practices that should be sought and avoided, rather than telling the customer that CAs are the only ones to be able to do it all.

Offer the good and bad, then what you will do, with some before's and after's of your work, as well.

You know that pictures speak a thousand words (or more).

You may like to use ISA or other publications/ pamphlets to present your case more effectively.

Best of luck with presenting yourself and educating your potential client bases.

Speaking with gardening clubs, etc, as you will likely have read on TB is a good public dispersal of knowledge, and way of helping to prevent the implimentation of poor practices and fear-based decision making.
 
thanks guys. i really feel the support and im hoping to get more arborists on maui on board with this. im not moving to ohio until 2013 and will most likely be here long enough to make an impact. no one has really cared enough to speak out about improper tree care here and for such a small island, every tree makes a difference.
 
Here in SoCal these low ballers are all over the place. I've found that with the people who care about their trees I can inform and teach them about proper tree care. Those who don't care, and who just want a cheap price, won't listen anyway.

By the way, cowboys are actually skilled professionals. I don't call hackers "butchers" for the same reason. Hackers, mutilators, low-ballers, fools, idiots, insurance claims waiting to happen, all seem to be more accurate names IMO.
 
That about sums it up tc. I know there are some pople out there that honestly dont know what their trees need but a majority of the people understand at a pretty early age in life that its rubbish to take the top of a tree out or to cut on it until it resembles a peice of brocoli.
Most of the time trees get hacked because people are shopping for a hackjob.
Ive been handing out flyers latley and when I see a topped tree I usualy knock and try to initiate a conversation about why they whent that route.
Its amazing that most of the time people will defend the hack job and even get a little insulted when I try to give them a dose of reality. I bought a bunch of ISA pamplets and its funny how the "Why topping hurts" are all gone already.
 
Thanks, Jesse.

One more point about the hackers here in the southwest, and you may agree. I feel for some of them because, yes, while they are here illegally they are just trying to make a living. Many times they are usually being used by others to pay off their coyote. They are put in dangerous situations, no training, and no one to watch out for them. Next time you see Mercado ask him about some of these.

Most of them will respond to teaching and training (when they're free) because they do take pride in what they do. I've seen first hand how a little knowlege opens up a great deal of desire for doing things right. Most of these folks just need some compasionate encouragement and mentoring.

However, there are a bunch who really don't give a #@&% and I don't have much tolerance for them. Same as everywhere, and every profession. "How can I do as little as possible for the most money."

Anyway, that's how I see it. I hope I didn't derail this thread too much.
 
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Oh ya...does your GF have a friend?
If not Im headed to Cananda where Cary Gibson assures me the women outnumber the men 3-1.
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He meant "by weight."

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