Steel core lanyard failure.

[MA Arborist]

The wire core is easier to use in smaller stuff, but actually becomes counter productive when you get into wood much over 3 ft. When you get into larger wood you need to know how to properly roll a flip-line up the trunk. This rolling action is much easier to create with a standard line, than one with wire in it.
Watch some vids of the old timers rolling their line up a big old Stick. Wire core? Hell no! Mostly plain old 7/8"-1" manilla. They own that line, and make it their b******tch. A technique every tree-man worth his salt should become proficient at.

My old man started climbing on Manilla almost 50 years ago. A lot of the large removals he did were the big elms. I’m sure he was pretty good at “rolling.” I’ll have to ask him about it. He always has good stories and often mentions manilla rope and how it sometimes would just fall apart!!

 

[Tom Dunlap]

The wire core is easier to use in smaller stuff, but actually becomes counter productive when you get into wood much over 3 ft. When you get into larger wood you need to know how to properly roll a flip-line up the trunk. This rolling action is much easier to create with a standard line, than one with wire in it.
Watch some vids of the old timers rolling their line up a big old Stick. Wire core? Hell no! Mostly plain old 7/8"-1" manilla. They own that line, and make it their b******tch. A technique every tree-man worth his salt should become proficient at.

Gerry Beranek showed me a redwood that he and another climber decades before. Each climber was opposite each other and lanyards connecting each other. One end connected to side Dee of each and the other end was connected using a becket. They’d step up then roll the lanyard on one side. Step up and roll the other. Alternating steps and sides. They had some way of knowing when to stop and take slack. Shouting wouldn’t work well because of the diameter and thick undergrowth muffling their voices for a while

Gerry shook his head and we talked about how much easier access had become with throwlines, launchers and SRT ascent

 

[ClimbMIT]

Gerry Beranek showed me a redwood that he and another climber decades before. Each climber was opposite each other and lanyards connecting each other. One end connected to side Dee of each and the other end was connected using a becket. They’d step up then roll the lanyard on one side. Step up and roll the other. Alternating steps and sides. They had some way of knowing when to stop and take slack. Shouting wouldn’t work well because of the diameter and thick undergrowth muffling their voices for a while

Gerry shook his head and we talked about how much easier access had become with throwlines, launchers and SRT ascent

That would have been a cool conversation to eavesdrop and/or chime in


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[theXman]

The wire core is easier to use in smaller stuff, but actually becomes counter productive when you get into wood much over 3 ft. When you get into larger wood you need to know how to properly roll a flip-line up the trunk. This rolling action is much easier to create with a standard line, than one with wire in it.
Watch some vids of the old timers rolling their line up a big old Stick. Wire core? Hell no! Mostly plain old 7/8"-1" manilla. They own that line, and make it their b******tch. A technique every tree-man worth his salt should become proficient at.

Not many places in the world where climbers are climbing 3 foot and larger diameters; mostly
California, Parts of Australia and Tasmania and some tropical areas.
. In my opinion, 3 foot is still fine with a steel core and I would agree that steel core could be difficult at 4 or 5 foot and larger. And the flipping wave type technique is needed if spiking; which I never got much practice with.

 

[rico]

Gerry Beranek showed me a redwood that he and another climber decades before. Each climber was opposite each other and lanyards connecting each other. One end connected to side Dee of each and the other end was connected using a becket. They’d step up then roll the lanyard on one side. Step up and roll the other. Alternating steps and sides. They had some way of knowing when to stop and take slack. Shouting wouldn’t work well because of the diameter and thick undergrowth muffling their voices for a while

Gerry shook his head and we talked about how much easier access had become with throwlines, launchers and SRT ascent

I did a 2 man climb just as you described back in the day. Miserable!
I think I will stick to an APTA and a rope walking setup going forward.