split beech tree
- Thread starter Reg
- Start date
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Good job Reg!
easyphloem
Branched out member
- Location
- Louisville, KY
Huge tree, Reg.
Well done, and thanks for the commentary on the photos.
It's a shame that big boy had to come down.
SZ
Well done, and thanks for the commentary on the photos.
It's a shame that big boy had to come down.
SZ
- Location
- Phoenix Arizona
Monster tree indeed!
Reg , you sure do some amazing work!
Thanks for taking the time to share.
Reg , you sure do some amazing work!
Thanks for taking the time to share.
- Location
- United Kingdom
Big unit! No clear up? Perfect saturday project!
Reg
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- Location
- Victoria, BC
Thankyou very much guys. The video from this job is terrific also, although there's lots too sort out first.
Marc H I'd say about 250+ years.
RDMOTT that was a Stihl 880
Nice avatar TL
No clean up for us Rupe, they couldn't budget for it.
Mark, Tom, the photo facility could perhaps be a little more user friendly. It's just so slow, for loading and viewing that its almost off-putting. Something for the future perhaps?
Marc H I'd say about 250+ years.
RDMOTT that was a Stihl 880
Nice avatar TL
No clean up for us Rupe, they couldn't budget for it.
Mark, Tom, the photo facility could perhaps be a little more user friendly. It's just so slow, for loading and viewing that its almost off-putting. Something for the future perhaps?
Gerald_Beranek
New member
- Location
- Ft. Bragg, Ca.
Look to be a number of similiar size trees in that stand. No rot in the one you took down. Maybe it could have growen bigger,,, given the time. Great pics, Reg! Thanks
- Location
- AZ
That beech was huge! Nice work. Seemed to be in an open area with little targets, but I guess with a split like that, it poses some liability. Looking forward to the video!
guymayor
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- Location
- East US, Earth
No budget for cleanup? They could've saved a whole lot more $ by having you cable it.
As Gerry said, coulda grown on for quite awhile. Might've outlived us all.
As Gerry said, coulda grown on for quite awhile. Might've outlived us all.
Reg
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- Location
- Victoria, BC
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No budget for cleanup? They could've saved a whole lot more $ by having you cable it.
As Gerry said, coulda grown on for quite awhile. Might've outlived us all.
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I really hope they don’t clean it up. In a woodland environment its best left or simply thrown into eco piles.
The trunk was actually rotten behind and around several fractures that had occurred some time ago. Although the base was ok for a tree of this age, you will see on this short video that the next 50 ft was perhaps where a major failure might occur down the line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyc3__IO20
I say this because of the huge, vigorous branch structure sat on top; the history of many similar tree collapse incidents within the grounds; a more recent fracture on the opposing side of the hollow highlighted in the video.
The large split stem which set the alarm bells ringing for the green-keepers would have reached the golf-green in the event of collapse.
To install a brace and perhaps undertake say a 15-30% crown reduction throughout the tree would have been more expensive and weather permitting IMO, than to do what was eventually decided.
The head green keeper quickly had to cover his own back, and of course…. stay within his budget, unfortunately. Now he could have hired a consultant to do a report, but it would be a brave consultant who’d suggest remedial works to this tree in quite a high risk area, all things considered. So he figured it’d be a waste of time and money. Instead, he immediately contacted John (a tree contractor since the 60’s) for a fast decision, John called me after this and you know the rest.
Thankfully there are many bigger, structurally sound broadleaf species within the grounds and the adjacent park (Tatton park estate). Predictably enough, the trees within the woodlands have fantastic root systems and vigorous crowns but suffer major stem failure if at all, while the tree’s in the more exposed and less nutritious grassland, grazing area always come up at the roots when they fail.
I think wherever such large trees are integrated with the paying public, the management will forever be challenged in finding a balance of how best to be pro-active in providing reasonably save, facilitated environment for their guests etc, while still maintaining and conserving that environment in its natural state….which is all part of its appeal as a facility.
Since a young child was killed by a similar falling tree incident in a neighboring park a couple of years ago, ‘duty of care’ has really come under close scrutiny in such potential situations. People within the chain of command are now frightened in case they end up carrying the can if a similar such event were to happen again, only to be later judged as 'preventable'.
No budget for cleanup? They could've saved a whole lot more $ by having you cable it.
As Gerry said, coulda grown on for quite awhile. Might've outlived us all.
[/ QUOTE ]
I really hope they don’t clean it up. In a woodland environment its best left or simply thrown into eco piles.
The trunk was actually rotten behind and around several fractures that had occurred some time ago. Although the base was ok for a tree of this age, you will see on this short video that the next 50 ft was perhaps where a major failure might occur down the line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZyc3__IO20
I say this because of the huge, vigorous branch structure sat on top; the history of many similar tree collapse incidents within the grounds; a more recent fracture on the opposing side of the hollow highlighted in the video.
The large split stem which set the alarm bells ringing for the green-keepers would have reached the golf-green in the event of collapse.
To install a brace and perhaps undertake say a 15-30% crown reduction throughout the tree would have been more expensive and weather permitting IMO, than to do what was eventually decided.
The head green keeper quickly had to cover his own back, and of course…. stay within his budget, unfortunately. Now he could have hired a consultant to do a report, but it would be a brave consultant who’d suggest remedial works to this tree in quite a high risk area, all things considered. So he figured it’d be a waste of time and money. Instead, he immediately contacted John (a tree contractor since the 60’s) for a fast decision, John called me after this and you know the rest.
Thankfully there are many bigger, structurally sound broadleaf species within the grounds and the adjacent park (Tatton park estate). Predictably enough, the trees within the woodlands have fantastic root systems and vigorous crowns but suffer major stem failure if at all, while the tree’s in the more exposed and less nutritious grassland, grazing area always come up at the roots when they fail.
I think wherever such large trees are integrated with the paying public, the management will forever be challenged in finding a balance of how best to be pro-active in providing reasonably save, facilitated environment for their guests etc, while still maintaining and conserving that environment in its natural state….which is all part of its appeal as a facility.
Since a young child was killed by a similar falling tree incident in a neighboring park a couple of years ago, ‘duty of care’ has really come under close scrutiny in such potential situations. People within the chain of command are now frightened in case they end up carrying the can if a similar such event were to happen again, only to be later judged as 'preventable'.
guymayor
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- Location
- East US, Earth
Thank you for the thorough explanation. The video helped a little too.
Good to know someone thought it through. I agree with what you said and did. Thanks for sharing it!
Good to know someone thought it through. I agree with what you said and did. Thanks for sharing it!
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