Splicing Velocity and Tachyon

ARLO

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In reading the threads on splicing double-braids I have noticed that many people are having a hard time getting the core past the area of overlap inside the cover on tightly braided ropes like Velocity, Tachyon, and Poison Ivy. The main complaint is that the cover is too tight to get a fid through, or that the core gets stuck as it is being pulled or pushed past the area of overlap inside the cover. The Samson splicing instructions are really worthless in this regard, as they just tell you to insert a fid and push the tail through. Yeah, Right! That works fine on loosely braided rigging ropes, but is a prescription for blisters and failure on a rope like Velocity. After much trial and error I have found a simple solution to this problem, as follows:

After you have inserted the cover inside the core and completed the taper on the cover, tape the ends of the longest cover strands to hold them together, and don't let them get pulled inside the core. Then, about 5" from the end of the core, reduce the volumn of the core by removing half the core strands, working your way around the core and removing every other left and right strand. If you do this right, the remaining core strands will still be braided (and, you don't need to worry about the taper you have created on the core because it will get cut off eventually when you taper and bury the tail). Now, insert a wire fid into the cover at mark Z and out at mark T, being careful not to snag the core. Capture the terminal 2.0" of the tapered core in the fid and gently pull on the fid until the core starts to pull into the cover at mark T. Now, clamp the ends of the tapered cover strands in a woodworker's vice (or 2 pieces of wood between the jaws in a bench vice). Then, attach a pair of vice grips very tightly to the ends of the wire fid, and pull firmly. If you have done things correctly, the tail will slide into the cover at mark T and pop out at mark Z with little or no milking required. Then grab the end of the core and pull it the rest of the way through. Hold on to the crossover and alternately pull on the ends of the core and cover to lock the crossover.

The rest of the splice is easy. If you are careful to get the crossover nice and tight and to maintain tension on the crossover during the bury it should go in with no need for brutalizing the rope with hammers. If you need to pound on it you have done something wrong.

The fid that I am using is a single piece of stainless steel wire with a sharp, rounded bend at one end. It is the same type of fid used for splicing Arbomaster. You can get them from Wesspur. The trick to doing this splice is to reduce the volumn of the core before you try to pull it through the cover. If you do it right you will be amazed at how easy it goes through.
 
If I've read it correctly, you simply taper the core for the last 4 inches before you pull it through the cover. When you get the fid inside the rope you put a bit of tension on the core and it should pull through relatively nicely!
 
I do this too. In fact, I taper the cover as well before pulling it through the core.

Instead of using tape to hold the cover strands while you work on the core, try using a heavy duty clip. Tape seems to stick to everything I don't want it to.
 
I'd like to see these steps in a video if possible.
I refer to it as a reduction in volumn as opposed to a taper. You remove every other strand at a point about 5" from the end of the core. Then, you capture the remaining strands in the wire fid and pull the core through. I don't recommend tapering the cover until after you have pushed it through the core because it is easy to push it through the core using a tubular fid and does not unravel as bad if you leave it intact. The suggestion from Treezybreez to use a heavy duty clip for holding the core strands together is a good tip, as the tape does tend to be hard to get off. But the clip has to come off when you clamp the tail of the cover in the vice, whereas you can mash the tape in the vice and not worry about it. So, I don't have a strong opinion about that. I will try to do a video when I get home from vacation in a couple of weeks.
 
You dont need a vise or vise grips, I use a safety pin to keep the cover taper from sliding out of the core and with correctly volume reduced core a wire fid and core will slide right through the crossover with ease. I did a Velocity tight eye splice in 22 minutes with lock stitch the other day (I had everything ready to go with the intent of timing myself, not bragging just saying).
 
You dont need a vise or vise grips, I use a safety pin to keep the cover taper from sliding out of the core and with correctly volume reduced core a wire fid and core will slide right through the crossover with ease. I did a Velocity tight eye splice in 22 minutes with lock stitch the other day (I had everything ready to go with the intent of timing myself, not bragging just saying).
I did one in 29 minutes, but I will admit to being old and slow. I will give it a shot without the vice and pliers to see if that speeds things up a bit. Thanks for the tip!
 
You dont need a vise or vise grips, I use a safety pin to keep the cover taper from sliding out of the core and with correctly volume reduced core a wire fid and core will slide right through the crossover with ease. I did a Velocity tight eye splice in 22 minutes with lock stitch the other day (I had everything ready to go with the intent of timing myself, not bragging just saying).
Just went out in the garage and whipped one out without the vice and pliers. Just as you said, the core pulled through easily with only a tiny amount of milking. Definitely goes faster and requires less equipment than they way I was doing it.
 
You dont need a vise or vise grips, I use a safety pin to keep the cover taper from sliding out of the core and with correctly volume reduced core a wire fid and core will slide right through the crossover with ease. I did a Velocity tight eye splice in 22 minutes with lock stitch the other day (I had everything ready to go with the intent of timing myself, not bragging just saying).
Hey Worthaug,
I have been doing more splices in Velocity and Tachyon and find that Velocity is easy to splice without the aid of a vise and vice grip pliers. But the only way I can do the longer bury of the core with Tachyon is to use my vice and vice grips. Do you have some magic for solving this problem? After doing many splices in Arbormaster and several types of double-braid ropes I have gradually come to the conclusion that if you can splice Tachyon everything else seems easy by comparison. I love it because it is a challenge, but I keep thinking that maybe I am doing something that is making it harder than it should be.
 
Arlo, are you using New England's instructions on Tachyon? There is a second core that makes the process a little different. I usually use Samson double braid instructions and use the same techniques as Velocity to make the crossover, but then spend quite a bit of time completing the bury. I like to tie the stopper knot to my hitch ball and put the eye on a carabiner attached to the bridge of my saddle and use all my body weight and lots of massaging to make it run home. Side note, Arbor master is a 16 strand cover only dependent rope not a double braid, core strands are not braided and just keep the load bearing cover round. Good luck.
 
Arlo, are you using New England's instructions on Tachyon? There is a second core that makes the process a little different. I usually use Samson double braid instructions and use the same techniques as Velocity to make the crossover, but then spend quite a bit of time completing the bury. I like to tie the stopper knot to my hitch ball and put the eye on a carabiner attached to the bridge of my saddle and use all my body weight and lots of massaging to make it run home. Side note, Arbor master is a 16 strand cover only dependent rope not a double braid, core strands are not braided and just keep the load bearing cover round. Good luck.

Hi Worthhaug,
I was using the New England instructions for Tachyon and found that their recommendation to do a full fid bury of the core above the extraction point made the splice extremely difficult and stiff because I could not figure out a way to pull the core out far enough to taper it correctly before burying it. So, on my last two splices I switched to a splice that was pretty much the same as the Samson method where I buried the core for 1 short fid above the extraction point. That made for a nice well-tapered splice and a much easier final bury but I am not at all sure if New England would approve the deviation from their instructions? With the Samson method I have been able to do the final bury in Tacyhon without resorting to strong-arm methods or pounding on the rope. But it does require frequent massaging to eventually work it home. So, it sounds like we are on the same page. Thanks for your advice.
 
It is technically a triple braid, but if you ignore the stupid second core its a double braid and plenty strong. Glad I could help, cheer.
 

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