Splicing rigging rings

Raven27

Raven27

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I'm a bit new to splicing, but have an array of fids and the stuff to do it. I've spliced some adjustable slings that I've used in light rigging that have held up well, and some spider leg balancers. I want to make my own rigging ring sling, but I'm unsure of what splice to use around the rings, would I just use a locking brummel? Or what is best, any instructions out there, I've tried looking., pictures would be great.
 
It all depends on the configuration you are looking for. There are single rings, which the Brummel will work perfect for. Then there are the rigging ring and rings that the Brummel is a bit more difficult for (and hollow braids may not be the most suitable choice either). And even beyond that there are the multi headed slings which is even more complex to splice. It really comes down to your intended use for the device when complete.
Are you looking for a small redirect to carry around the tree with you?
Are you looking for something to set in the top for a terminal rigging point?
Are you looking for larger redirects for use in conjunction with blocks?
There are many applications and each one may have different role construction requirements and thus splicing techniques.
 
@flyingsquirrel25 , I was thinking a larger ring on one end, smallergies on the other, couple different lengths 5',7', etc... use would be limited. Removal, toedium weight stuff, no big blocking stuff. Also as redirects for climbing. Since I know they can be made relatively cheap, I'd Make several. I thought about using stable braid and doing an eye splice around each one on a fixed length of rope. Be able to set it from the ground, use I'm a crotch, or girth it around a stem. No multi ring, fancy setups, I'm not that good at splicing. Lol

I guess if I use stable braid, I would use class 1 eye splice on Samson splicing guide?
And the locking Brummel on tenex?
I'd probably make both, guess what I'm trying to make sure of is that both my thoughts/ methods are safe and sound.
 
Raven27 said:
@flyingsquirrel25 , I was thinking a larger ring on one end, smallergies on the other, couple different lengths 5',7', etc... use would be limited. Removal, toedium weight stuff, no big blocking stuff. Also as redirects for climbing. Since I know they can be made relatively cheap, I'd Make several. I thought about using stable braid and doing an eye splice around each one on a fixed length of rope. Be able to set it from the ground, use I'm a crotch, or girth it around a stem. No multi ring, fancy setups, I'm not that good at splicing. Lol

I guess if I use stable braid, I would use class 1 eye splice on Samson splicing guide?
And the locking Brummel on tenex?
I'd probably make both, guess what I'm trying to make sure of is that both my thoughts/ methods are safe and sound.
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My go to is a ring and ring made out of a large and medium xring and 1/2" stable braid. Yes using the class 1 splice, Samson's instructions are easy enough to follow. Fairly easy, just slightly more complicated when trying to go shorter. My 4 footer in 1/2" is probably the shortest I would attempt in double braid. I have a large ring and beast ring on 3/4" as well but I hardly use it. I think that's between 6 and 7 feet long.
Using Tenex (locking Brummel) for a ring and ring is an advanced splicing manuver in my eyes, not something I would mess with but a proper straight bury and lock stitch would suffice as well. I'll try and get a picture or two of ring projects I've done tomorrow.
 
southsoundtree said:
Would the longer one work well to girth hitch to a crotch- free section of trunk? Seems too long for most work.
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I assume you were talking about mine. Yes it is too long, big and all that. I haven't had the heart to cut it up... And I don't use it all that much (or at all really). Yes it would girth hitch but even then you wouldn't be able to get on anything all that big. Really it was to see if I could make it, then on this isn't gonna work that well. :(.
 
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/rigging-rings-build-your-own-home.24750/
Here is one of the early threads on the rings. You can see my first ring and ring on page 2.
I got thinking about that large ring and ring... I did use it to jin pole a snapped and hung up ash tree. Installed it tied the tree off and cut it from the ground. Worked great and didn't need to worry about capacity. And I retrieved it from the ground!
 
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You think the locking brummel is too advanced on a ring to try? I thoufht that was a fairly simply splice. I will likely go with the class 1 on 9/16" stable braid., but I do imagine it's a pain to get that tight, should be fun.
Other question is, I'm going to use the ABR rings, is 2 rings, say a medium and a small, sufficient bend radius for using 9/16 stable braid rigging line through the rings?
 
Raven27 said:
You think the locking brummel is too advanced on a ring to try? I thoufht that was a fairly simply splice. I will likely go with the class 1 on 9/16" stable braid., but I do imagine it's a pain to get that tight, should be fun.
Other question is, I'm going to use the ABR rings, is 2 rings, say a medium and a small, sufficient bend radius for using 9/16 stable braid rigging line through the rings?
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With a single ring a locking Brummel is the way to go. Not denying that and have made several configurations with single rings. If you are doing a ring and ring one end is easy and the other end is complicated. There are guys that do it but it's not something I do. I'm not familiar with the ABR rings and sizes. It I believe the x-rings are smaller, and I have had no issues with my large and medium r&r. I mostly use half inch 16 strand though when using it.
 
@flyingsquirrel25 Thanks for sharing all that. I just learned a little ;)
I've been wanting to make a triple retrievable, but I know I'm not ready for that. I still need a fid set and some more experience.
 
96coal449 said:
@flyingsquirrel25 Thanks for sharing all that. I just learned a little ;)
I've been wanting to make a triple retrievable, but I know I'm not ready for that. I still need a fid set and some more experience.
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I actually played with creating a triple, but not on one piece of rope. It's not all that complicated to do so either. You can create the r&r and add a ring on a prussik. Probably one of the easier ways to accomplish the goal. I would recommend adding the extra ring on the smaller side so it has less chance of getting hung up in the crotch. The cool thing is it gives you more options. You can set it up as a triple terminal rigging point, or a double and take the prussik with you for a quick redirect on the ends.
It's definitely fun messing with the rings, seeing what useful tools you can make. Every now and again you spend lots of time making something just to figure out it doesn't work all that well... But that's the fun of it all:bailando::birra:
 
Ivs made a couple ring and rings using a locking Brummel and mobius(?) Brummel. Yes the ring pops in, but its not a simple taste to pop it in. You gotta really work that thing in there, I don't see it ever popping out. I'm not trying to talk anyone out of their opinion, but I'm comfortable with it personally.
That TRex stuff is nice, but I think double braid is the way to go. @flyingsquirrel25 that sling you made off 1/2" stable braid is the shit, I used to use the same thing I had with knots. Then I solved one on Sirius 14mm and it fit like it was meant to be.
Have fun. And be willing to cut a sling you've made after a while for the sake of making something better.
 
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