Splice a second bridge onto lower d's?

RBJtree · Mar 17, 2019

I want to splice 11mm double braid onto the lower d's of my treemo. Do you think it could be done? My first concern is pulling enough core out on the second eye. My second concern is getting enough leverage on the splices to fully bury them.

evo · Mar 18, 2019

I’d go 3/8th. It’s kinda splitting hairs but the bury taper area of a splice shouldn’t be side loaded.

diogenes · Mar 18, 2019

Knots or sewn eyes for bridge.

RBJtree · Mar 18, 2019

evo said:
I’d go 3/8th. It’s kinda splitting hairs but the bury taper area of a splice shouldn’t be side loaded.

I didn't know about the bury taper not supposed to be side loaded. I guess that makes sence though.

evo · Mar 18, 2019

RBJtree said:
I didn't know about the bury taper not supposed to be side loaded. I guess that makes sence though.

It’s something that’s done all the time. Think of when you’re blocking down a tree.

Brocky · Mar 18, 2019

It’s the throat area of the splice that should be avoided. It seems like bending the splice farther back would help to hold the bury inside.

NickfromWI · Mar 18, 2019

How short do you want this bridge to be? My bridge is like 10-12 inches long. You can’t do two double braid splices PROPERLY and have it that short. Even 24” is tough

RBJtree · Mar 18, 2019

NickfromWI said:
How short do you want this bridge to be? My bridge is like 10-12 inches long. You can’t do two double braid splices PROPERLY and have it that short. Even 24” is tough

I'm looking for it to be a little on the long side. My stock bridge is set around 20", I want the second to be longer. I was hoping to get in at no more than 28", 26" would be perfect.

RBJtree · Mar 18, 2019

evo said:
It’s something that’s done all the time. Think of when you’re blocking down a tree.

I do my best to get the wrap on the eye, but I'm sure it stretches/ pulls onto the splice pretty often.

Brocky · Mar 18, 2019

NickfromWI said:
How short do you want this bridge to be? My bridge is like 10-12 inches long. You can’t do two double braid splices PROPERLY and have it that short. Even 24” is tough

Eliminate the core and do full length buries with just the cover?

diogenes · Mar 18, 2019

evo said:
It’s something that’s done all the time. Think of when you’re blocking down a tree.

That is different than having a ring, or something, constantly rubbing back and forth over the splice

moss · Mar 18, 2019

Brocky said:
Eliminate the core and do full length buries with just the cover?

Yeah, a friend "back in the day" made some hitch cords that way, Nick knows of whom I speak, they did not break test near as well as a core bury splice.
-AJ

RBJtree · Mar 19, 2019

moss said:
Yeah, a friend "back in the day" made some hitch cords that way, Nick knows of whom I speak, they did not break test near as well as a core bury splice.
-AJ

Although I don't think the jacket only splice is a way I would go, the loading on a hitch cord is much different than a bridge or an end to end pull. I wonder how the different spice types would compare when loaded in different ways?

Brocky · Mar 19, 2019

Although I don't think the jacket only splice is a way I would go, the loading on a hitch cord is much different than a bridge or an end to end pull. I wonder how the different spice types would compare when loaded in different ways?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I had to make one myself. If I’m remembering right he did locked brummels and short buries. I was thinking overlapping full length buries. Depending on material used and the length of the bridge, locked brummels may be needed also.

RBJtree · Mar 19, 2019

Brocky said:
Although I don't think the jacket only splice is a way I would go, the loading on a hitch cord is much different than a bridge or an end to end pull. I wonder how the different spice types would compare when loaded in different ways?

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Yes, I had to make one myself. If I’m remembering right he did locked brummels and short buries. I was thinking overlapping full length buries. Depending on material used and the length of the bridge, locked brummels may be needed also.[/QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you couldn't do locked brummels on both sides if splicing to the d's.

evo · Mar 19, 2019

RBJtree said:
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Yes, I had to make one myself. If I’m remembering right he did locked brummels and short buries. I was thinking overlapping full length buries. Depending on material used and the length of the bridge, locked brummels may be needed also.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you couldn't do locked brummels on both sides if splicing to the d's.[/QUOTE]
The only way is to re weave the rope. It can be done.

There are ways it could be a spliced bridge done, but I will go no further...

*Marten* · Mar 26, 2019

Come hang out at fids n fibers in vancouver, bring your harness and we could sew one on

RBJtree · Mar 26, 2019

*Marten* said:
Come hang out at fids n fibers in vancouver, bring your harness and we could sew one on

Thanks for the invite, I would love too, but its a little far from me.

RBJtree · Apr 13, 2019

Well, I said f it and spliced a very long bridge onto my lower d's. Due to the length, I don't think there will be an issue with side load and friction on the splices, but I am keeping a close eye on it.