Crimsonking
Been here a while
Yes, that should be possible, even preferable. Pulling the bight all the way out would be necessary if there are stubs or unions that would impede a loop from falling, or if the friction doesn’t break.
Spar System?
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Steve Connally
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Suffolk, Virginia
AB with a quickie and when I was doing crane work every day I had a piece of whipping twine stitched into my rope to measure 16' logs for the mill. Kept my tail at 16' and new exactly where to stop every time.
Crimsonking
Been here a while
Man, that’s smart!
- Location
- Richmond
I second Steve. Easiest way to work a spar IMO. I mainly do removals DdRT unless I tie into an adjacent tree so I switch to SRT once before I start working to the spar. My SOP lately has been using my zig zag the entire time and just clipping in the rope wrench and an extra biner when ready to do spar work. Been working great.
Jehinten
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Evansville
The way I'm seeing your setup on the right, your possibly loading the pinto in a less than ideal way by putting all of the load on one cheek plate. By clipping through the alpine butterfly with the carabiner you will be loading both sides of the pulley. Basically exactly the same as your setup, but one leg of the AP through the carabiner.
southsoundtree
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Olympia, WA
Keep your gate off the tree. Prevent bad cross-loading.
FWIW, I choke with a steel biner all the time (which is good for advancing my rope with or w/o a throw weight). I'm more careful choking with aluminum biners.
FWIW, I choke with a steel biner all the time (which is good for advancing my rope with or w/o a throw weight). I'm more careful choking with aluminum biners.
Serf Life
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- Location
- Maine Island
Best idea a year ago today
- Location
- Memphis
A photo of this setup would be super helpful for me. It sounds like a great way to save time but I can’t quite visualize it.
chiselbit
Been here a while
chiselbit
Been here a while
Take the bottom loop under the multiscender down with you, then slack out and pull the two legs of rope on the left
SomethingWitty
Arkansawyer
- Location
- LR
I almost always use a similar setup, but I leave several feet of tail. I don't have to set up the retrieval every move. Usually just a tug.
When you need a longer retrieval, tie or clip to the splice a carabinier at the end and clip the fall of your line. The function is the same, but the steps are reduced over a working day and minutes are saved.
The quickie excels at this anchor type. It's right in your face where you can set it quickly and you don't do a bunch of loading and unloading and generating dynamic forces.
A delta or similar would also be great...
There is really no good reason to shun hardware in this application.
When you need a longer retrieval, tie or clip to the splice a carabinier at the end and clip the fall of your line. The function is the same, but the steps are reduced over a working day and minutes are saved.
The quickie excels at this anchor type. It's right in your face where you can set it quickly and you don't do a bunch of loading and unloading and generating dynamic forces.
A delta or similar would also be great...
There is really no good reason to shun hardware in this application.
- Location
- Memphis
Thank you for taking the time to draw this for me. So helpful!
ghostice
Been here a while
@TreeGuysTalkingTrees and your Pinto Cinch see (at 3:40 in the video) - note the biner orientation and comment about using the pinto this way:
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=yId1JYvaQnQ
Also germain to the above discussions is Richard's video at:
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKjgbLKspGA
Tom your wrench/ screw link comment way above is really handy - thanks - hadn't thought of that. A COVID dremmel job coming up!
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=yId1JYvaQnQ
Also germain to the above discussions is Richard's video at:
https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKjgbLKspGA
Tom your wrench/ screw link comment way above is really handy - thanks - hadn't thought of that. A COVID dremmel job coming up!
goodaking
Participating member
This is what I’ve been using . Retrievable anchor for spar work and retrievable redirect for canopy work. Don’t run the bight down to your destination on spar work as it has potential for slipping down or pinching the stem. Do far running the bight on the retrievable redirect works. Here are some options that work
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goodaking
Participating member
The last picture is what you should not do on the spar work. But as a retrievable redirect so far no slipping if you are anchored above
jefftheswede
New member
- Location
- San Diego, North county
All my guys use the TreeSqueeze, https://www.bishco.com/shop/climbin...re-core/buckingham-treesqueeze-system-179510x
Jeff
Jeff
SomethingWitty
Arkansawyer
- Location
- LR
That is a cool tool. It really looks like it works well for MRS and spiking up while keeping a descendable attachment.
I am not sure it is worth the trouble if you didn't have to access the tree that way, and then maybe not if you've got to go to the top to set rigging or something.
Feel free to sell me on it, I don't not like it.
jefftheswede
New member
- Location
- San Diego, North county
It is mandatory for us when doing palms, especially queen palms, great for eucalyptus too.
Sfoppema
Branched out member
- Location
- Central MA
Anything other than a super squiggly spar just straight up lanyard down. I didn't do that when I started and Ive regretted it. Guys I train I make them do it out of the gate cause once you are comfortable with it you'll be faster and more comfortable. Scary for a beginner, but it's just the right way in my opinion.....
