I think the fastest ( for srt) is just a running bowline with no tail, clip a carabiner in behind the knot and run the tail of your climb line thru biner
What do I owe ya? ajajaI think the fastest ( for srt) is just a running bowline with no tail, clip a carabiner in behind the knot and run the tail of your climb line thru biner
I’ve been chewing on an idea for spar srt. Tie/splice a quickie or ring to your rope end. Wrap end around spar, pull bight through ring/quickie. Attach grigri or akimbo (something quick on/off) to the bight. After cut, descend on bight through ring, lanyard for next cut, remove bight from device, pull tail to remove bight from ring and drop rope. Problem: rope is not attached to climber in any way during retrieval, should possibly keep running tail clipped through a Caritool or like.
I've def considered it when starting my way down attacking the spar but I've never done it because I'm not fond of running metal clipped to the alpine butterfly for cinched mode. More importantly(for me) if there is a way to get away from fixed lengths for retrieval I'm on board with the least amount of gear necessary.I just use a alpine loop with canopy anchor type thing but around the trunk instead of a branch. I leave enough tail to retrieve from my next spot. A link of some sort between the climbing side of the rope and the alpine loop makes setup, retrieval and re-setup easier. I don't like having an additional rope for retrieval, just because it's more stuff and it doesn't improve the situation for me.
What don't you like about metal in your butterfly? I actually use a steel rigging carabiner with the gate oriented away from the wood. A lot of people don't like that due to the possibility (however remote) of the tree rubbing the biner just right to open it. I've heard it has happened. I like it because I don't have to feed the entire working end thru the loop.I've def considered it when starting my way down attacking the spar but I've never done it because I'm not fond of running metal clipped to the alpine butterfly for cinched mode. More importantly(for me) if there is a way to get away from fixed lengths for retrieval I'm on board with the least amount of gear necessary.
I have more time using canopy anchors cinched rope on rope so it's probably a comfort thing. Having less things to double check ig is where I stand with it. I do trust steel carabiners in my rigging configurations, no question about it.What don't you like about metal in your butterfly? I actually use a steel rigging carabiner with the gate oriented away from the wood. A lot of people don't like that due to the possibility (however remote) of the tree rubbing the biner just right to open it. I've heard it has happened. I like it because I don't have to feed the entire working end thru the loop.
What don't you like about metal in your butterfly? I actually use a steel rigging carabiner with the gate oriented away from the wood. A lot of people don't like that due to the possibility (however remote) of the tree rubbing the biner just right to open it. I've heard it has happened. I like it because I don't have to feed the entire working end thru the loop.
I've been thinking I should switch to a shackle or screw link of some sort. I'm sure I can find a place on my tree mo for a little wrench.Biners will definitely open against trees, and ropes.
That’s it. Just grab your climb line under your hitch and clip it into the biner, keep it slack so you can descend to next cutting station and then pull the whole thing down. Fast fast fast. And the biner isn’t part of the life support, it’s just behind your bowline as something to pull it down withI was envisioning with chiselbits post clipping the karabiner above the bowline bend then attaching the rope under your climb system, decend to next work station, pull bite down, cut repeat. I maybe wrong. if im correct all thats needed is the connector. Tom, why a screwlink instead of karabiner?jw