*Solo rigging* Whatcha using? Swivel Bail Shackle and similar methods/?

[southsoundtree]

Why do you do that instead of a double whip tackle with secure hardware?

 

[Jehinten]

Why do you do that instead of a double whip tackle with secure hardware?

I use that as well, the benefits of this over DWT, 1) singled rigging line, so it lowers like traditional lowering and needs less rope
2) you don't leave any hardware behind. This means nothing to accidentally chip or coming down to retrieve slings to continue working.
3) after there is a pile of brush, DWT runs the risk of the tail of the rope getting tangled in brush as your retrieving it. (If your 50 feet up, you have to drop 50 feet of rope into a pile of brush to release the limb)



Like anything, its a tool to choose from but may not always be the best option.

 

[southsoundtree]

1. I would say it uses the same amount as a ground based lowering system, but half of that of an aerial controlled system.

2. I dwt with bright slings and only aluminum biners.

3. Yep. Been there. At least there is another end of the rope, or a second rigging line in the tree, if brought up.




Natural- crotch dwt, instead of sling and biner saves gear.

I've got 24ish slings/ biners, so i don't run short.




Third to last fence board i broke (6ish years ago) was from dwt-natural crotching where there was enough length on the stub when I cut off one side of the fork to catch and lower, easily. I was not as eagle-eyed as needed when i let the tips contact the ground, and the piece twisted such that the slack came out of the fork.

I like the security of the dwt.

Different tools for different situations.


I'll have to look into the hook system.

 

[MikoDel]

I do a lot of solo rigging and a I have a few choices on how I do this:
speedline, go down and collect the slings

double whip tackle (DWT) with speed line slings, release the end of your rope and pull it through the sling and back up to you. (leaves the slings on the ground)

DWT again but use a rigSaver http://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=9062 on the limb to be lowered , once the limb is on the ground remove the rigsaver like you would a friction saver on a MRS system. (sling is returned to you for the next piece to be rigged)

tie a piece on like normal, cut and lower, then tie a midline knot onto your next piece and cut and lower... this works well with natural crotch and wrapping around stubs for friction.
Using speed line slings and alpine butterfly knots work well

I also use a few components put together to allow a more traditional lowering without leaving slings on the ground and without all the rope mixed up in the brush like the last technique. This technique works really well on static rigging and then I switch to something else when it gets more dynamic.View attachment 55570
girth the webbing sling around your limb and through the steel ring and then hook it with the open hook. tension your rope and cut, once lowered you can shake the hook loose, as you pull the rope back up the red sling pulls the webbing loop free of the limb and brings it all back up to you.

That's so F____NG smart!

 

[MikoDel]

A piece of bungee cord tied on a fifi hook that has a sling trapped on it. Tie a Blake's hitch on the rope with the bungee, put the sling around piece, slide the bungee hitch up the rope, lower. When it hits the ground, the bungee pulls the fifi out of the sling.

I need a picture :-(

 

[MikoDel]

Heres a video of DWT

I don't understand what kind of friction device/hitch holds the cut piece aloft before you put slack into it and lower. The rope is hanging free, the limb isn't moving... then you pay some slack upward, and it lowers. That's slick but I can't figure it. I use a figure 8 w/ears sometimes for double whip, but w/a hard or soft lock that needs to be undone in order to lower.

 

[southsoundtree]

I use stubs/ natural crotch friction most often.

 

[Barc Buster]

Here is my newest version that I made. Nothing special except an all in one sling and not way overbuilt like that 5/8 stable braid in the first version.

to use, you'll run the rigging rope through the red ring and tie it to the carabiner.
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I’ve used this a fair amount over the last couple years. Thanks for coming up with it! It’s much easier to manage than DW. It works great in most non negative rigging situations when I’m solo. The only thing that’s different with mine is the hook.I use something similar to this

It’s a little trickier to get the sling to release sometimes but it feels like it’s more secure/less “slop” when lowering.

 

[Jehinten]

I don't understand what kind of friction device/hitch holds the cut piece aloft before you put slack into it and lower. The rope is hanging free, the limb isn't moving... then you pay some slack upward, and it lowers. That's slick but I can't figure it. I use a figure 8 w/ears sometimes for double whip, but w/a hard or soft lock that needs to be undone in order to lower.

It's not my video, but he is using an AFD or aerial friction device

He's simply has too much friction for the size of limb, that can be created many ways and is sometimes useful and other times a hindrance.

 

[Brocky]

This is what I had at the time.

 

[Njdelaney]

I’ve used this a fair amount over the last couple years. Thanks for coming up with it! It’s much easier to manage than DW. It works great in most non negative rigging situations when I’m solo. The only thing that’s different with mine is the hook.I use something similar to thisView attachment 79705

It’s a little trickier to get the sling to release sometimes but it feels like it’s more secure/less “slop” when lowering.

This is called a grab hook and has a narrow channel for grabbing chain. The larger, more round opening is called a slip hook. Thought the terms may be useful for those looking to search/purchase online.

 

[Lignotuber]

Put together a lil solo rigging set up (not the rope I would use..) based on some of the previous posts. Really just a hook tied on with an alpine butterfly and a loop with your preferred knot a few feet down. Take a bite before the loop and wrap it around your limb, meet end of bite with the loop and pop another bite through that, attach hook. Uses up some rope but it's adjustable and nice to not need slings. I do mostly rec climbing these days and haven't tested it in the field, I'd probably basket the sling and attach with quickie instead of girth even though it's for light duty rigging..

 

[Lignotuber]

Struggling to put up the photos, here's a link:

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[Lignotuber]

This Critr2 rappel device (or other canyoneering ones) looks like it could be pretty handy for lighter solo rigging. Couple raps and a lock off.

 

[evo]

I use a Rock Exotica totem, the one with lock off ears. It’s literally a riggin multi tool. Most the time I use it in a auto block function and lock off the line or just let the tail weight run it in a double whip configuration. When I have crew the other uses really shine as a rigging plate, sling balancer, and much more

 

[Jehinten]

Here is my newest version that I made. Nothing special except an all in one sling and not way overbuilt like that 5/8 stable braid in the first version.

to use, you'll run the rigging rope through the red ring and tie it to the carabiner.
View attachment 79670View attachment 79668View attachment 79669

I spliced another version of this last night for taking picks with the grapple truck today, instead of trusting the grapple as we were making cuts over a privacy fence and dumpsters at an apartment complex.

For picking up debris the grapple is great, for cutting limbs and having them potentially roll I preferred to have a sling.

A slight variation In the release action but very similar. This made it much easier being the solo ground guy