Show off them splices

CutHighnLetFly said:
Dude, f you. I just burned thru my gloves and palms trying to sink home my bury on cougar
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Tied off the the hitch on my truck. Saddle on. Biner in the eye. Milked the rope down with a thimble prussik a couple times and got it buried as much as I could by hand.... almost all the way. Bumped back in the saddle once or twice and it went right on in.

I messed up the cover taper on the first two while watching football. Other than that, the worst trouble I had is the same one I have with any splice, bringing the core back into the cover before doing the final core taper and final bury.




Now Ocean Poly is giving me fits. "It's easy" they said. I threw it across the room tonight. Tools and all.
 
JustinK said:
Tied off the the hitch on my truck. Saddle on. Biner in the eye. Milked the rope down with a thimble prussik a couple times and got it buried as much as I could by hand.... almost all the way. Bumped back in the saddle once or twice and it went right on in.

I messed up the cover taper on the first two while watching football. Other than that, the worst trouble I had is the same one I have with any splice, bringing the core back into the cover before doing the final core taper and final bury.




If you are having trouble pulling the core thru the cover I suggest you reduce the volume of the core by about 40-50% about 5" back from the end of the core. Just work you way around the core, removing about half the strands. Then hook the core with your wire fid so that the end folds back over itself and is no wider than the full core width. It will pull thru easily. I do this on all double braids. For smaller cords like Ocean Poly I do the volume reduction about 3" from the end of the core, but the principle is the same.
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IMG_6985.webp Thanks ARLO!

Didn't even have to consult my go to person for them either. Both back to back and no mistakes lol. It's all about the taper prior to burying the core back into the rope. Wish I had carried that over from the Cougar.
 
I made one like that recently. My climbing buddy looked at it and asked me if one of the splices was slipping.
 
I got to thinking about it after someone asked me if I trusted my splicing.

My answer was yes, because I wouldn't climb on it unless I felt it was absolutely sound.

Then I thought "well shit, they never get 'complete' unless you do them right"

The nature of how a splice is driven home seems like they'd only get tighter. Anyone had a failure where it pulls out?
 
I have never seen a failure where a double braid splice pulled out. But then I move in pretty small circles.
 
I feel comfortable with the thought that it's a recipe that you either did right or did wrong and you will know as soon as it's "done". You either know it was all smooth and good, or you know there was a problem that you either buried or settled with (no bueno), or it was good right thru to the end.
I pull test stuff and as I make things for life support am going to send one to break at tree stuff. It's like $25, money no one would argue was a worthy investment or not.
 
Money well spent. They have a couple of mine right now, but I have not heard back from them yet.
 
CutHighnLetFly said:
I feel comfortable with the thought that it's a recipe that you either did right or did wrong and you will know as soon as it's "done". You either know it was all smooth and good, or you know there was a problem that you either buried or settled with (no bueno), or it was good right thru to the end.
I pull test stuff and as I make things for life support am going to send one to break at tree stuff. It's like $25, money no one would argue was a worthy investment or not.
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Here is a picture of a couple of Bee Line E2E splices that the folks at Treestuff just broke for me. They did a nice job, emailed me two excellent graphs of the test results, and mailed the ropes back to me so I could inspect the breaks. Both prusiks were tested in a basket configuration. They both broke at approximately 10,400 lbs.

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Those are great looking breaks!

Re: cougar, all donaghys rope is unpredictable to splice and cougar is either hard or REALLY hard!


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ARLO said:
Here is a picture of a couple of Bee Line E2E splices that the folks at Treestuff just broke for me. They did a nice job, emailed me two excellent graphs of the test results, and mailed the ropes back to me so I could inspect the breaks. Both prusiks were tested in a basket configuration. They both broke at approximately 10,400 lbs.

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You were testing class I splices on a class II rope? Why?


Reed Wortley
CA# SO-6953A
CTSP# 01739
 
Reed, why do you think they are class I splices? Maybe your last name is Kent, as I' m not seeing anything on the outside!
 
Brocky said:
Reed, why do you think they are class I splices? Maybe your last name is Kent, as I' m not seeing anything on the outside!
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Because no one would bother to go through the complexity of a Class II splice for an eye to eye just to have them broken. Beeline is spliced with a modded Class II, naked eye.


Reed Wortley
CA# SO-6953A
CTSP# 01739
 
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