sherill pinacle climbing saddle

I just got a sherill pinacle climbing saddle. Does anyone have one of these ? If so how do you set it up? Do you use the drings together or seperate like in the sherill catalog. I like to use the splitail with a blakes but with this saddle using the drings seperate when you start to decend your left side comes down then I have to shift my weight to my right side for it to come down. I am use to one of the old butt stap saddles with the big drings together with 2 carabiners. Never had this problem before would apreciate some input thanks
 
Kevin, lets at least give someone a chance to answer the original question before changing topics!

Whatever your name is- I have a Pinnacle I bought a couple months ago. I absolutely detest the miniature D-rings but have managed to figure out how to make the saddle usable.

First, you need to get your straps lengthened out to be able to wear the saddle. When I got mine, they were cinched all the way up and I had to let them 3/4 of the way out over a period of a week. The leg straps are only to keep the bosun seat from riding up around your waist, no need for them to be cinched down tight next to your 'package'. Adjust them to where you can slide your hand under the straps when wearing the saddle.

I clip in with an advanced split tail so I use two carabiners attached to my saddle. I switched from the Petzl Ball lock to the new Petzl Tri-lock biners in order to be able to rotate the biners within the D rings. I would use a spreader snap if they didn't weigh 12 pounds and if the ring was any bigger than the miniature D rings, but it is no help as currently available.

One day I will figure out how to get larger D rings put on the saddle (I won't cut/ sew the straps and do not know anyone I would trust for such work). Until then I'll live with the tiny D rings or else figure a better way to attach my rope.

Trying to work with the D rings separated (one biner on each D ring) is difficult at best. Good for taking a break but no good for ascending or descending. I'm surprised Sherrill even suggests it in the catalog. Another example of text written by someone who has never worn or used the saddle.
 
Not really. I sometimes had that happen on my old saddle, but quickly aadapted my technique to eliminate the problem (more vigilent attention to my biners). By the time I got this saddle I rarely side loaded a biner and can't recall it happening with this saddle more than once or twice.

The real difficulty is attaching my friction hitch biner. After clipping it on, I need to rotate it and pass the gate through the D rings. Barely enough room with the new Tri Lock biners and it was almost impossible with the Ball Lock biners. Now I always attach the standing end of my lifeline last so there is more room to attach my friction hitch biner.
 
The rolling D's are bad for side loading.
Nice for working with but you need to keep an eye on them.
I don't have any side loading problems when I use the fixed loops on the front suspension strap.
 
The last time I checked, Buckingham was still installing the larger D-rings if the saddle is shipped back to them. Unfortunately, this causes one to go a week or two without a saddle.
 
The left to right motion while decending is usually due to friction at tie in point. If you reduce the frition at the tie in point the decent is more even
 
in the sherril catalog it says when ordering to specify if you want the larger d rings and for a extra charge and some extra time to be delivered its just the way you like it. you could of saved yourself some time if you noticed it when you ordered what a shame. but in general it is a very good saddle i had one a while ago no complaints. i was going to get the large d rings but i decided to take a chance and go with the small rings and i am glad i did once i got used to it i like them better than the big fella's. you just got to modify and compact you connections until you feel cozzy and most importantly get used to it.
 
"The real difficulty is attaching my friction hitch biner. After clipping it on, I need to rotate it and pass the gate through the D rings. Barely enough room with the new Tri Lock biners and it was almost impossible with the Ball Lock biners. Now I always attach the standing end of my lifeline last so there is more room to attach my friction hitch biner. " .....treeclimber165


Brian, when I clip my friction hitch/pulley on the Ball-lock carabiner, I slide the hitch&pulley around to the bottom of the carabiner so that the carabiner hangs upside down. This allows you to simply clip to that tight webbing strap. It's not a bother (for me, anyways) to have all that stuff of the bottom of the carabiner, instead of the top. Try it out....let us know what you think!

love
nick
 
I have been climbing in a Pinnacle for about five years now. Most of the time I use the rings split apart. I find that is much more comfortable this way and I don't like having the splice and my hitch all jammed together. I have no problems with the smaller rings. I will clip them together with a third carabiner when body thrusting more than a few feet. The third carabiner keeps things seperated enough for comfort and minimizes the seesaw effect on the hips. I use the same technique for long descents sometimes. This is the climbing style that I use because it is the most comfortable for me and it is the way I learned. It may not work for you at all but it may be worth a try.
 

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