Secondary tie-in for spurring: choked split-tail climbing line -OR- running bowline -OR- ??

Looks like either that one or Roanoke would be closest.

I've tried once (unsuccessfully), but was thinking of trying again to reach out to Treeboi4life since he is in Winston, which is a couple hours away. Does anyone who's seen his material on YouTube have a word on whether or not he is legit?
 
Thanks, J. I may email them and see about this. Looks like none of them are anywhere close to local, so I can't imagine that any amount of $ I'd pay would make it worth their while. But I might check into this. In any case, I appreciate the tip.

On another note, I tried 'secured' foot locking in the back yard, up to about 8' off the ground or so. Wanted to try an ascent technique that didn't rely on spurs going into wood, in the case that I got stranded out in space on a rope and needed to go back through a crotch. WOW - that is really cool that the feet can be used to grip a rope like that. It blew my mind.

My setup was a little jack-leg though, which made descent incredibly sketchy (hence only going up not much over head height); carabiner to saddle, 3' x 1" nylon webbing strap to another carabiner to an eye-to-eye prusik onto the climb line.

Is this really considered 'secured'? Next time I try this, I am considering adding another prusik above the primary one I'm advancing, such that they advance at the same time when I push up on the bottom of the lower one, and the top/secondary/backup one never gets weighted unless the first one unexpectedly releases. Would this work?

Descending: I was just using a prusik eye-to-eye, and not the HH2 or any other device, so I had to back-walk down the rope, alternating between standing up, bringing the hitch down, then getting both hands back below the hitch to apply my weight to it as I release my feet; a real pain, and nothing I'd even contemplate doing higher than where I was. Next time I do this, I will either use my HH2 (haven't tried advancing this while weighted, ever - is it possible to simply push this up the line by hand, without having to have a tether or some other means to pull it up the line as you stand up?) or a descender of some sort.

I'm using 1/2"/12.7mm rope (Vortex), which I now understand severely limits my options for mechanicals (even mechanicals without moving parts don't seem to commonly be recommended for use on lines larger than ~11mm). It appears that some variation of figure 8 device is what is commonly used for descent in this case.
 
Footlocking can be fun if done in small doses. There is also a one footed version.

Your set up sounds okay, as long as the carabiners can’t get side loaded. Keep your tether between the harness and hitch as short as possible to minimize shock loading if your feet should slip. One hitch is enough if you keep your hands below it, and always have it pushed up, but two would work.

Descending- figure 8, belay tube, Munter hitch, or take a footlock, slightly loosen hitch and let rope slowly slip through feet at the same time.

Use HH like hitch.
 
"one footed" = prusik loop on foot?

Upper carabiner is through the spliced eyes in the e2e that are tight and maintain the biner's orientation. Lower carabiner is an RE Pirate with wire eye. Webbing loop between biner's is just girth hitched.

I thought Munter hitches weren't good for rope wear, versus something like a mechanical or figure-8 descender (to avoid rope-on-rope friction).

Thanks, @Brocky.
 
One footed is just a foot and rope, if using the right foot
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The rope traps itself. Point your toe down and lock your ankle, push straight down over your center of gravity, i.e., your butt. If your foot wanders off to the side, or your foot points up, it will slide.

The Munter would only be problematic if you used it numerous times a day, every day. The tubular devices hockle the rope less than the other two, from what I’ve read.
 
Jump into the modern world. Get a rope-walker set-up. Unless you don't want to enjoy yourself.





I've made a handled ascender into a plenty functional floating ascender, just add hacksaw, file, elastic cord, and adjustable foot loop. Cheap.
 
Looking into what all that would involve, south. Thanks for the recommendation.

Is foot locking something that is kind of relegated to competion now?
 
LordFarkwad said:
Pines, almost exclusively.

Is side-loading a carabiner extremely frowned upon, or generally not? I've heard several folks with rapport mentioning doing that for speed benefits, but then almost just as many saying not to.

Edit: If I'm understanding correctly, Jepson himself advocates for side-loading a carabiner in TCC pg. 49.

I guess one option could be to tie and untie the RB while passing over a limb, but that would be - perhaps - more risky since I'm spending more time not on the lanyard/flipline, correct (as flyingsquirrel25 says)?

If I've got a quick way to remove and reapply the choker, I don't think I'll mind only being tied in with a flipline for a few seconds.

Any word on 2-in-1 steel cores? Does that have any possible bearing on alleviating the concern FS25 raises? Hmm, I suppose if a steel core flipline could fail, then a 2-in-1 of the same construction would be just as likely to fail in similar manner, correct? So, it seems those wouldn't help; you're still only tied in with one system and no backup.
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I use a 2-in-1 lanyard and a wire core flip line. WHile climbing I will choke the truck with the 2-in-1 or take the tail and throw it over the next branch when I encounter un cut branches.
 
LordFarkwad said:
Looking into what all that would involve, south. Thanks for the recommendation.

Is foot locking something that is kind of relegated to competion now?
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Foot locking is a great skill, I never ascend from start to finish with it but it’s a must know like a Blake’s or taught line.

Here’s why. There are plenty of times while in a freehang you need to in weight your system. Or in extreme cases change to a different system entirely. I’ve had footie straps break, hitches bind up with pitch requiring switching over to a figure 8, blah blah. So many scenarios I won’t try to list them all. Sometimes I go months without taking a foot lock or two, and other times I will do it multiple times in a day.
 
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