RopeTek Sidewinder - Retractable Lanyard System

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As far as being comp ready, the termination of the none working end was my biggest hurdle before i took it to comp. Seems like you guys are on top of it.

Try it out with an ART adjuster if you get a chance. Swivel of course. I'll never use anything else if I have a choice.
 
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Is the ART Positioner useable as a mechanical hitch in a climbing system with an overhead TIP, or is it designed to operate for secondary positioning only?
 
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It is my understanding that it is secondary only but I'm new to the ART. I do use it as a short, choked srt system, and it works great. I could be completely wrong on the secondary thing but, when Jimmy sees this he will know for sure and let us know.
 
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Eric, I've used mine that way before. It works but it's not ideal. With the lever being so small it's more difficult to release slowly. A CE lanyard type setup is way more practical as a climbing and positioning system.

I only use my positioner lanyard on removals now. I still think it's a sweet piece of equipment though, esp with the swivel.
 
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I would only use it for what its designed for a lanyard adjuster.I climb with a spider jack on my primary climbing system,when im climbing ddrt.I found over time it gets easier to release slowly but it takes alot of practice.But you cant go wrong with a ce lanyard i have one of those as well.
 
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I guess that was my thinking. I was on a rec climb with a very talented female climber and she was working on an SRT ascent to DRT work system. I was next to her in the tree as she was transferring from one to the other. She used the ART Positioner as recommended by the manufacturer, though I asked why she didn't chose an overhead point for suspension comfort during the transfer. She said that in a comp, she would be DQ'd for using it in that configuration.
Now, we don't live and work in a comp, of course. But I wonder, with all the flexibility of the CE or similar style lanyard, why bring something into the tree that has limited use? I always thought the CE distel hitch suggested by Teufelberger was spot on, until I switched it to a Micho'. Now, I'd swear that thing was mechanical. It tends like honey butter. I almost wanna' taste it!
Adam, I can surely see your thought on the Positioner during removals, especially an excurrent conifer.
 
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I've been looking at the celanyard a bit for ideas and am going to first try the pinto/hitch setup.

A problem I am having is that a lot of the hitch setups assume spiced or sewed eyes. I mostly run tied ends in part so I can dial in the exact cord length I want and also they stay in place well.

But that rules out the pinto as a minding pulley and pretty much any setup that needs an oval.....

I guess I am going to have to learn to live with sew eyes, although they give me the creeps.
 
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Why do sewn eyes give you the creeps?

Look at all of the other places that we rely on sewing...seatbelts, harnesses...on and on.
 
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Why do sewn eyes give you the creeps?

Look at all of the other places that we rely on sewing...seatbelts, harnesses...on and on.

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Mostly an aesthetic reaction to where the stitching is. Esp on the early "grizzly" spliced ones.

I don't have the same reaction to flat sewn webbing,etc.

I realize they must be very strong eyes, they just look so inelegant. Esp on prusiks, where they overlap.

Just me, I know. I'll come around eventually.

Actually I have a stitched eye to eye on order to try with a pinto on a lanyard cestyle. Seems like an eye to eye is the perfect application. Very compact even with cover and with no taper to affect hitches.....

But say for a climbing rope, I would rather just splice a tight eye than look at a sewn eye....

edit: can you point me to testing summaries with stiched vs spliced rope eyes? Can't find much. Some quick tests like:

http://www.treetools.co.nz/_blog/Treetoo...k-test_results/
 
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I used to feel the same way about stitched eyes. I now prefer them for hitch cords. You get more usable hitch cord compared to the stiff throat of a spliced eye.

I enjoy splicing though and if the rope construction allows it will always put eyes on my climbing lines.
 
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Adam, You need to email Paul and totally beg him to be first on the list for a Sidewinder. I think you will really like it!
 
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Sorry, Nick, I never saw that post.

I might give a SW a run when they come out but I doubt it'll get me to break up with my CE Lanyard..
 
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You never know! Hey why dont you come to Cleveland! You know we have the world second best climate here.
 

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