Rope Runner Pro steel slick pin price
- Thread starter saucerboy
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I and many people I know use a quickie as a canopy anchor, so it would definitely be considered life support.
moss
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Hmmm.... probably has to to do with a calculation around the overall overhead including testing and various certifications for the RR Pro. Bad public relations though when it's obvious the wholesale cost for that part is going to be somewhere in the single dollars.
-AJ
moss
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Just checked the slic pin prices on treestuff, seriously that has to be a mistake, they're got the Classic RR bird pin at $9.99 and the RR Pro pin at $59.99.
Note that on the RR Pro the other slic pins are aluminum. They don't have rope contact but are life support quality. The pin on the bird is steel because it does have rope contact. Stainless is a nicety so you don't end up with a rusty slic pin, nothing to do with achieving sufficient life support strength.
If this is not a pricing mistake it is a grievous strategic error.
-AJ
Note that on the RR Pro the other slic pins are aluminum. They don't have rope contact but are life support quality. The pin on the bird is steel because it does have rope contact. Stainless is a nicety so you don't end up with a rusty slic pin, nothing to do with achieving sufficient life support strength.
If this is not a pricing mistake it is a grievous strategic error.
-AJ
moss
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It is. Used to use them everyday.
Got to be a typo. Made in Taiwan with cheap labour. Maybe $10US for a hundo. But hey. If I wanted one my dollars would drop. I never take apart a runner. Always thread on. So that would not be me personally. Pro need not come out all the way. How was this misplaced?
Mike Islander
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Profit motive?
Alternatives?
Alternatives?
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I don't actually need one either, I've just bought the RRP couple of days ago since the CE version finally came out in Europe. The option to replace almost all the parts is a big plus in my opinion, compared to the zigzag or akimbo, but it stops making sense once the cost of rebuilding is almost the same as buying a new device.
I do too, and I missed that one. One thing with the quickie, at the 2019 Legends comp I was setting the access line for the AR event as I normally tie my canopy anchor and was stopped and told I could not use the Quickie. I complained that it had passed the gear check to which they mumbled some incoherent response. I later have been informed that the issue is that the two catches that have to be depressed to release the slick pin are not or have not been rated. If that is the case, it raises the question, What about the pins in the OG RR, RRP and RW? Just throwing that out there for discussion.
I noticed PivotPoint Inc. lists a patent for SLIC pins and has a trademark by the words. Anyone know if they are the only manufacturer?
I suppose an enterprising person could just buy the minimum quantity and sell replacements at a discount while still making a tidy profit, assuming PPI will sell that pin configuration to others besides Notch.
I suppose an enterprising person could just buy the minimum quantity and sell replacements at a discount while still making a tidy profit, assuming PPI will sell that pin configuration to others besides Notch.
The quickie and the OG RR are not CE certified and therefore not approved for ISA comps, but you can use CE versions of the RRP or RW. I think the main issue is a lack of CE marking, not slic pins in general, at least in Europe. I'm not sure about the Legends comp though.
bonner1040
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The price on Treestuff for this item is an error. We have definitely taken price increases on this and all items we sell, but certainly not that much. I will look into it.
Slick pins are patented by Pivot Pin, and are all made in the USA.
Slick pins are patented by Pivot Pin, and are all made in the USA.
Thanks for clarification, btw the same price is listed at other retailers also, not just Treestuff.
Mike Islander
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I think they all just pull from the Treestuff/Sherrilltree web back end. You can see the webpage content is exactly the same.
I think you're right, Arbsession might be an exception.
I understand the conflict between US and CE. Personally I like the CE requirements as it is a documentable layer of safety requirements that can be observed immediately upon entering a work site. I think it is valuable even though it adds to the regulatory uurden of being in business. I am always impressed when I see Youtube videos of European crews that are so crisp the seeing US crews that look like escaped convicts that are so called "professionals". Best to you. Be safe, be well.
ghostice
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Not only where you are . . last summer I marvelled at a "Certified Arb" company (another set of stickers told me) with their truck plastered in "Partnerships in Safety" (a Provincial safety auditing program) stickers all over their trucks, felling and chainsawing a tree while working in running shoes, shorts and T shirts, no lid or any eye or hearing protection and the music blaring while they crammed branches into their diesel chipper. Or another crew where the ground guys looked like they had slept in the mud in a culvert somewhere, spitting and cussing loudly in a residential neighbourhood while trying to work out a jam in their chipper feed, with sticks and branches, and they kept kicking the fence gate while wrestling with brush. These types of company's are everywhere. A wonder to behold.
