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- Watertown, WI
I have yet so use this system while on a removal where something has been falling near the release rope. the thought had crossed my mind but not come to action in a work scenario. thanks for the deepened forethought.
Retrievable re-direct
- Thread starter Norm_Hall
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i use a variation of it almost every day removals, pruning, christmas lights, cabling, it seems to work fine for me. i think like everything else in our trade use common sense and be prudent in application. personally i keep my tail on the opposite side of the tree from the work
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- Hawaii
cool trick thanks for sharing. how would you use that in a competition? I guess you would have to bring the line up with you or set it in the tree before you left the ground?
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treebing
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Thats a good knot to tie up horses with. You always want a quick release knot so if something frightens the horse you can pull it out before the horse hurts itself.
This works as a SRT redirect. There are two ways to tie the rope, one way comes back to you, the other loops a circle around the branch and your stuck.
In srt, place a biner in the splice of the climbing line, clip it above your (SRT climbing apparatus) before you tie it, this will insure it releases on the right side of the branch. This is true in DDRT
The knot that I use is a little different than the one Norm Poasted I think. Its very close, I will try to get a picture. Its also the same knot I tie my throwline to the bag with.
This works as a SRT redirect. There are two ways to tie the rope, one way comes back to you, the other loops a circle around the branch and your stuck.
In srt, place a biner in the splice of the climbing line, clip it above your (SRT climbing apparatus) before you tie it, this will insure it releases on the right side of the branch. This is true in DDRT
The knot that I use is a little different than the one Norm Poasted I think. Its very close, I will try to get a picture. Its also the same knot I tie my throwline to the bag with.
treebing
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http://fieldviewfarm.net/quickrealseknot.html
Here is an image of the knot that I tie. i use this knot to carry my rope into the tree, to tie my throwbag, for light rigging, retrievable redirects, and of course tying up horses. It is probably the first knot I ever learned. Real easy.
The knot that norm posted does not cinch down. this one cinches right down on to the limb.
Here is an image of the knot that I tie. i use this knot to carry my rope into the tree, to tie my throwbag, for light rigging, retrievable redirects, and of course tying up horses. It is probably the first knot I ever learned. Real easy.
The knot that norm posted does not cinch down. this one cinches right down on to the limb.
treebing
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I am looking at that diagram and it doesn't look accurate. I will look for something better.
treebing
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treebing
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treebing
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Don't use the one I posted from the horse website, that hitch seemed to roll on me when I tried it.
I like this idea but it can be set up similar using just the tail of your rope and a biner and the double sheeved pulley. It was shown to me by Jeff Cochran. It's awesome in my opinion and you can even set it up with just a biner which almost everyone of us has an extra one hanging on our saddle.
KentuckySawyer
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- Louisville
After the slip knots are triggered, how to you pull the redirect back to you? Are you depending solely on the climb line's change in angle to pull the rig back to you?
KentuckySawyer
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- Louisville
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I like this idea but it can be set up similar using just the tail of your rope and a biner and the double sheeved pulley. It was shown to me by Jeff Cochran. It's awesome in my opinion and you can even set it up with just a biner which almost everyone of us has an extra one hanging on our saddle.
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Well go get a camera and share it with everyone!
I like this idea but it can be set up similar using just the tail of your rope and a biner and the double sheeved pulley. It was shown to me by Jeff Cochran. It's awesome in my opinion and you can even set it up with just a biner which almost everyone of us has an extra one hanging on our saddle.
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Well go get a camera and share it with everyone!
treebing
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when you pull it it should just slide right down the rope back at you.
KentuckySawyer
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when you pull it it should just slide right down the rope back at you.
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When you pull it with a throw line or your tail rope? But then the throwline or tail rope has to pull through/around the limb. What if the resistance on the tail rope is too much to allow the redirect to return to you? Climb back to get it, I suppose, or am I missing something?
I like the idea, but that seems like a substantial limitation.
when you pull it it should just slide right down the rope back at you.
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When you pull it with a throw line or your tail rope? But then the throwline or tail rope has to pull through/around the limb. What if the resistance on the tail rope is too much to allow the redirect to return to you? Climb back to get it, I suppose, or am I missing something?
I like the idea, but that seems like a substantial limitation.
treebing
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With my knot, (I havent tried Norm's), it just falls completely off the limb and the biner slides down the rope. Sometimes if there is a nub it can hang up there but you just have to flip your line and it pops off. I haven't ever not been able to pull the tail to undo the rope. I have never tried with a throwline either. I hate throwline, it always seems to tangle, I try to avoid the stuff other than getting my line into the tree.
I clip the biner into my splice at the end of my tail and then clip it to my line above my fate before tying the hitch. This guarantees that it is tied so it falls off the limb when you pull the tail. Usually i tie it when I want to go furthur out than dropping through the natural croth will allow me. This also means that if it were to fail I would only fall back into the natural redirect. I have used it in situations where if the tail were to be pulled I'd take a whipper but I think the key is not to rig any big branches or do anything that could risk snagging the line.
I clip the biner into my splice at the end of my tail and then clip it to my line above my fate before tying the hitch. This guarantees that it is tied so it falls off the limb when you pull the tail. Usually i tie it when I want to go furthur out than dropping through the natural croth will allow me. This also means that if it were to fail I would only fall back into the natural redirect. I have used it in situations where if the tail were to be pulled I'd take a whipper but I think the key is not to rig any big branches or do anything that could risk snagging the line.
jmcscrap
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- Woodbury, MN
More pics when using the tail? Sorry, more of a visual learner! Is this an SRT redirect only?
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I like this idea but it can be set up similar using just the tail of your rope and a biner and the double sheeved pulley. It was shown to me by Jeff Cochran. It's awesome in my opinion and you can even set it up with just a biner which almost everyone of us has an extra one hanging on our saddle.
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Well go get a camera and share it with everyone!
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If I am thinking of the right thing, Sherrill had a diagram in there catolog a couple years ago.
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I like this idea but it can be set up similar using just the tail of your rope and a biner and the double sheeved pulley. It was shown to me by Jeff Cochran. It's awesome in my opinion and you can even set it up with just a biner which almost everyone of us has an extra one hanging on our saddle.
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Well go get a camera and share it with everyone!
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If I am thinking of the right thing, Sherrill had a diagram in there catolog a couple years ago.
treebing
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no its not an SRT only. Its a little simpler with SRT because there is no moving parts. With DDRT just put a couple biners on the end or a double pulley.
jmcscrap
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http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=125649&page=0&fpart=2&vc=1
Don't know if this link works, but.. Mahk Adams posted this one and has been working great for me. The whole thing comes right back down to me when I pull the tail. I haven't had any problems or concerns with the zipper pulling out and sending me for a ride.
Don't know if this link works, but.. Mahk Adams posted this one and has been working great for me. The whole thing comes right back down to me when I pull the tail. I haven't had any problems or concerns with the zipper pulling out and sending me for a ride.
treebing
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Tom, I noticed that in the thread that jmcscrap posted, you say that an SRT retrievable redi is super easy. You say "stay posted" Im curious to what you are reffering to.
I rarely use a redi, mostly just natural crotch redi. the tail trick with a horse knot is great sometimes, but I am a little cautious with its apps especially if I am doing any cutting. So, what you got?
I rarely use a redi, mostly just natural crotch redi. the tail trick with a horse knot is great sometimes, but I am a little cautious with its apps especially if I am doing any cutting. So, what you got?
