Removal

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Dude, you believe in cutting large pieces.

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When I saw the photos I was like, 'Sh*t! big pieces to be taking when climbing, then when I saw the bucket, I was like, 'Mmmm, thats why the pieces were so big, well one of them was anyway'

When climbing, doing a removal on a big healthy tree that feels safe, I rig out huge branches, sometimes whole stems depending on rigging anchor point.

I also enjoy using the bucket, like you can see rigging points much better, moving away from the tree for a better look is great.

So when I use a bucket I take them even bigger, I think the use of a bucket leads people in to a false sense of security. Like, "Ok, I'm in the bucket lets take everything out really big and get it over with" Maybe this is not such a good way to think, but I am guilty of it. Or just too greedy, not sure.

What do people think about this?

Great photos Mark.
 
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For the most part, how I get there doesn't affect the size of the piece being rigged.

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Is this statement true for anyone else?

I definately take bigger pieces from the bucket.
 
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Was that an Endura Braid lowering line?

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I was curious if you answered this question, i would like to know as well!!! Ohhh and good job on the removal
 
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When I saw the photos I was like, 'Sh*t! big pieces to be taking when climbing, then when I saw the bucket, I was like, 'Mmmm, thats why the pieces were so big, well one of them was anyway'


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I think Mark explained the size of the pieces with this statement:

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Yeah, when the tree is big and there are static loads, I'll go as big as I can. When I butt-hitch, I go wayyyyy smaller!

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and from the photos it looks like the pieces were tip tied and lifted with a GRCS. Very smooth and controlled, with little or no dynamic loading.

Just my understanding of it.

Still big pieces.

Nice job Mark.
 
Yes, I am usually guilty of taking big pieces. The exceptions; butt-hitching, speedlining, and low confidence in the tree's integrity.

I think the bucket is a great learning tool for rigging. It allows you to get a feel for what a tree can do without putting you in the mix. Then, when you climb you can be very confident in what you are doing. I would also say that I usually take the same size pieces when climbing except when doing what I mentioned earlier. If there are problems with the tree, I might go bigger in the bucket, but only if it does not put my crew's safety in jeopardy.

No, that was not Endurabraid in those shots. I usually use 5/8" or 3/4" dblbraid for my large crown work.
 
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For the most part, how I get there doesn't affect the size of the piece being rigged.

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Is this statement true for anyone else?

I definately take bigger pieces from the bucket.

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Why? Is the rigging different? Do you use a different saw? I may not be wording it right. Unless I have an airhead groundie, whatever I can rig in a bucket can also be rigged climbing. Being in a bucket isn't a a free ticket to increase the load. It's the skill of the rope handler and the SWL of the gear that limits that. ;)

concerning that, how I got there to do it doesn't make a difference to me.
 
Good job on that pin oak Mark Chisholm, I completely agree with you on taking lg. pieces when there aren't limiting factors. Thanks for posting the photos!
 
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Why? Is the rigging different? Do you use a different saw? I may not be wording it right. Unless I have an airhead groundie, whatever I can rig in a bucket can also be rigged climbing. Being in a bucket isn't a a free ticket to increase the load. It's the skill of the rope handler and the SWL of the gear that limits that. ;)


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When using a bucket I can judge the size and weight of pieces much better than when climbing.

I was specifically referring to dynamic loading.

So this is why I generally take bigger heavier pieces from the bucket.

When climbing I automatically take smaller pieces due to safety concerns.

Groundies are irrelevant, I use good guys on the ground - climbers.
 
Sometimes you can't take out big pieces in the bucket , because it is in the way. The tree is gonna hold what ever you cut( with in reason) , if your in a saddle or bucket. If it gives it to you , take it , and another wrap just in case. Big street tree .
 
Great pics and what a beaut job, so close to the road and truck/chipper etc is cool.

What sort of tree is that and why haul the limbs not chip them?

What's happening with the spar that's left?
 
That is a Pin Oak. It was loaded because the guy who's job it was only has a 12" chipper. The trunk was going to stay ($ I guess) but now is going to be removed this Spring. Should be 2-3 picks with a crane when they do it.
 
Mark, say your 18" capacity Vermeer was on the job, and you had a good spot to dump chips, and you let down a 14" dia. limb thats not too gnarly...would you chip the whole thing?? Or maybe not the whole thing cuz it's large dia. hardwood and potentially tough on the chipper....?
 
Cory,

For me, it all comes down to what will get the job down the quickest/easiest. If I might run out of room for chips I might load more wood. If I have plenty of room for chips and don't want extra wood, I'd chip it no problem. We have one 1800 with over 4K hrs on it that has chipped plenty of 18" and maybe beyond!
 
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