Racist plant names, common, scientific

Herein lies my issues with the entire discussion.............."Yup, and while we as arborists cannot control what the military calls their helicopter, we as individuals can control the names we use." ...................Why is any human focusing their concern and efforts on what that helicopter is called and not screaming at the top of their lungs about WHAT ITS BEING USED FOR. It was designed and built to rein the largest amount of death and destruction possible to any human who is on the opposition end of its owners policies and philosophies. In this context please tell me how the name makes any difference at all. Why not try to control what its used for instead of being upset about what its name is? Have we lost our way? I also see the shot across the bow letting people know their opinion wasn't asked. Isn't posting something on an open forum a carte blanche invitation to anyone with access to post their opinion or are opinions only welcomed when they are in alignment with the initial thoughts? Seems to be a similar tone on recent threads. Only like minded folks need reply.
As the one who brought up the Apache, let me paste again what I said about it. I’m echoing exactly your sentiments here, although you said it more directly and emphatically.

“I do think it’s hella insane to call an instrument of war after an indigenous tribe, like an Apache helicopter. But it’s way more insane what we do with those war machines.”
 
As the one who brought up the Apache, let me paste again what I said about it. I’m echoing exactly your sentiments here, although you said it more directly and emphatically.

“I do think it’s hella insane to call an instrument of war after an indigenous tribe, like an Apache helicopter. But it’s way more insane what we do with those war machines.”
I recognize your point. I was speaking in a generality not specifically to your post. More to the response to your post focusing on the name alone.
 
While not racist, it goes along with the “don’t you have other, more important things to worry about” mentality. Apparently California had serpentinite as their state stone and, through an act of congress, it was removed of its title on the grounds that serpentinite contains a small quantity of asbestos. “How can we appreciate and hold so dear a stone that has potential to harm human health” was more or less the quote from the politician who championed this cause.

A funny thing: A carabiner has California cancer and birth defect warnings. Sodium Nitrate is NOT a known carcinogen in CA (yes, they have a list) although most of Europe recognizes it to be.

Racist plant names, carabiners causing cancer, changing state stones…… let’s work on the real problems instead.
 

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