Re: SRT RADS
I would love to try a uni.
I would love to try a uni.
Question About Ascender Set Up For SRT???
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Re: SRT RADS
The thing with using the Uni in a RAD is that it is not limited only to that. You have the full one-to-one abilities of SRT plus the ability to switch over to doubled rope rapidly.
Not only can you ascend and lower into work position in SRT or doubled rope, you can also repel with it, again SRT or doubled rope, so it does everything necessary or required. There are very few tools that can make this claim.
You add this to its consistency in friction control and it is a tool I very much enjoy using.
Dave
The thing with using the Uni in a RAD is that it is not limited only to that. You have the full one-to-one abilities of SRT plus the ability to switch over to doubled rope rapidly.
Not only can you ascend and lower into work position in SRT or doubled rope, you can also repel with it, again SRT or doubled rope, so it does everything necessary or required. There are very few tools that can make this claim.
You add this to its consistency in friction control and it is a tool I very much enjoy using.
Dave
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- Retired in Minneapolis
Re: SRT RADS
You're correct, Dave, the Uni is the only one.
I heard that there is a stainless steel Uni in the works. Won't that be a shiny tool!
You're correct, Dave, the Uni is the only one.
I heard that there is a stainless steel Uni in the works. Won't that be a shiny tool!
Crazy_Jimmy
Participating member
- Location
- Texas
Re: SRT RADS
Any word on maybe a smaller uni in the works or even one with a pulley or something to kinda fairlead slack?
Any word on maybe a smaller uni in the works or even one with a pulley or something to kinda fairlead slack?
- Location
- NJ
Re: SRT RADS
A small version is or was supposed to come out. Only one I heard that has one is wonder Tom.
A small version is or was supposed to come out. Only one I heard that has one is wonder Tom.
- Location
- Chattanooga
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Keeping in touch with reality here guys, let us not forget that as great as the Uni may be, it does require a lot of support gear. E.g. IF I understand this accurately, to do a 1:1 SRT with the Uni, you still have to have a way to lift your weight - that's gonna be an ascender.
If you rope walk, that's a minimum of two ascenders, likely a Pantin and a second ascender with a short tether, plus a Uni.
Then if you want to switch over to a RADS at some point, you'll need to add two pulleys and a biner.
Not knocking the Uni at all, but there's a little more to it than just 'the Uni does it all'.
Keeping in touch with reality here guys, let us not forget that as great as the Uni may be, it does require a lot of support gear. E.g. IF I understand this accurately, to do a 1:1 SRT with the Uni, you still have to have a way to lift your weight - that's gonna be an ascender.
If you rope walk, that's a minimum of two ascenders, likely a Pantin and a second ascender with a short tether, plus a Uni.
Then if you want to switch over to a RADS at some point, you'll need to add two pulleys and a biner.
Not knocking the Uni at all, but there's a little more to it than just 'the Uni does it all'.
Crazy_Jimmy
Participating member
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- Texas
Re: SRT RADS
Or you could just footlock.
Or you could just footlock.
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- Chattanooga
Re: SRT RADS
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Or you could just footlock.
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Footlocking on a single line could prove to be quite problematic for many.
And again, I'm not knocking the Uni at all; but just pointing out that there's more to it than just the Uni.
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Or you could just footlock.
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Footlocking on a single line could prove to be quite problematic for many.
And again, I'm not knocking the Uni at all; but just pointing out that there's more to it than just the Uni.
Re: SRT RADS
Jimmy, did you see the picture I posted earlier in the thread? It works well as a fair lead and will get the job done until Morgan figures out a permanent solution.
Ron, You bring up some good points on the support gear. But the Uni can indeed stand alone. It is really not that hard to footlock with the Uni on a single rope (I can do it) and then work the entire tree with nothing but the Uni.
All of the other setups that require support gear are just refinements. These things make our lives easier and allow us to overcome special situations. Some use many combinations, some don't bother with any.
I don't believe there will ever be one tool that everyone agrees is the best because of diverse climbing styles.
But the Uni can do more than anything else out there at the moment.
Dave
Jimmy, did you see the picture I posted earlier in the thread? It works well as a fair lead and will get the job done until Morgan figures out a permanent solution.
Ron, You bring up some good points on the support gear. But the Uni can indeed stand alone. It is really not that hard to footlock with the Uni on a single rope (I can do it) and then work the entire tree with nothing but the Uni.
All of the other setups that require support gear are just refinements. These things make our lives easier and allow us to overcome special situations. Some use many combinations, some don't bother with any.
I don't believe there will ever be one tool that everyone agrees is the best because of diverse climbing styles.
But the Uni can do more than anything else out there at the moment.
Dave
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Re: SRT RADS
I've put neophyte climbers on SRT with the Uni and a Pantin. They fly up the rope...and down too. After a little work with them they can footlock a single line too. Then, I've put them on doubled ropes...they do NOT like it one bit and can't wait to get back to SRT.
This is my experience...your mileage may vary.
I've put neophyte climbers on SRT with the Uni and a Pantin. They fly up the rope...and down too. After a little work with them they can footlock a single line too. Then, I've put them on doubled ropes...they do NOT like it one bit and can't wait to get back to SRT.
This is my experience...your mileage may vary.
- Location
- Canada
Re: SRT RADS
Ron, for a lot of the people here climbing is NOT the goal, getting to where you have to work IS!!!!
Yes the Uni needs some other support equipment, no a big deal to a working climber, possibly expensive to a recreational climber!
Ron, for a lot of the people here climbing is NOT the goal, getting to where you have to work IS!!!!
Yes the Uni needs some other support equipment, no a big deal to a working climber, possibly expensive to a recreational climber!
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- Chattanooga
Re: SRT RADS
Yeah, I'm surprised that arborists have been able to get any work done at all before the Uni was available.
Yeah, I'm surprised that arborists have been able to get any work done at all before the Uni was available.
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- Chattanooga
Re: SRT RADS
Guys, I fear that some of my remarks have been misunderstood or misinterpreted. I have not said a single negative thing about the Uni. I have pointed out some things that one would both want to know and consider ahead of time before one bought a Uni.
Some of the things that have come out either by my remarks or in response to my remarks have been very useful information, and actually became a stepping stone to talk about neat methods the Uni could be adapted to. - No need to thank me.
I'm inclined to buy a Uni myself and I just rec climb, but as I evaluate it conceptually, it covers EVERYTHING I'm looking for in a climbing system. But then, I have any kind of ascender, pulley, etc. I'd ever need without buying another thing, but others may not.
But, I guess since I know those of you that are suggesting SRT footlocking, one leg Pantin climbing don't actually climb that way, it's a bit confusing why you'd recommend methods you seldom use. I guess it just seems evasive.
Guys, I fear that some of my remarks have been misunderstood or misinterpreted. I have not said a single negative thing about the Uni. I have pointed out some things that one would both want to know and consider ahead of time before one bought a Uni.
Some of the things that have come out either by my remarks or in response to my remarks have been very useful information, and actually became a stepping stone to talk about neat methods the Uni could be adapted to. - No need to thank me.
I'm inclined to buy a Uni myself and I just rec climb, but as I evaluate it conceptually, it covers EVERYTHING I'm looking for in a climbing system. But then, I have any kind of ascender, pulley, etc. I'd ever need without buying another thing, but others may not.
But, I guess since I know those of you that are suggesting SRT footlocking, one leg Pantin climbing don't actually climb that way, it's a bit confusing why you'd recommend methods you seldom use. I guess it just seems evasive.
treebing
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Detroit, Mi.
Re: SRT RADS
I climb with the F8 revolver everyday, Like the uni there are variations of complexity in its application.
I footlock a single line a lot. Its easier than double rope footlocking in my opinion. the trick is to hold on to the hitch minding pulley and hitch instead of the rope. You put your weight on the hitch with every lock.
sometimes I foot lock with the hitch at my harness and only use my legs to ascend.
switching to decent is as easy as just clipping on the F8 revolver. I personally dont believe that there can ever be a mechanical device that allows the control and finesse as a friction hitch while working the tree. Although I have never tried a uni.
I add tools as the climb gets longer. But I always stay tied into the rope with a friction hitch and add other tools as needed.
I climb with the F8 revolver everyday, Like the uni there are variations of complexity in its application.
I footlock a single line a lot. Its easier than double rope footlocking in my opinion. the trick is to hold on to the hitch minding pulley and hitch instead of the rope. You put your weight on the hitch with every lock.
sometimes I foot lock with the hitch at my harness and only use my legs to ascend.
switching to decent is as easy as just clipping on the F8 revolver. I personally dont believe that there can ever be a mechanical device that allows the control and finesse as a friction hitch while working the tree. Although I have never tried a uni.
I add tools as the climb gets longer. But I always stay tied into the rope with a friction hitch and add other tools as needed.
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