Props/support.

Basswood · Feb 18, 2021

Curious what you all have found to be the best props. A frame, u shaped metal bracket to rest on or what tree care LA is utilizing in the post? Or is this totally dependent on the situation?

Nick Araya on Instagram: "CORAL TREE UPDATE! If you saw our post from January 8- this is the tree. Today we pruned it, installed the prop, cables it, cleaned it, and treated it. Luckily We have a great team to do a job like this! Swipe through to lea

297 likes, 44 comments - treecarela on February 18, 2021: "CORAL TREE UPDATE! If you saw our post from January 8- this is the tree. Today we pruned it, installed the prop, cables it, cleaned it, and treated it. Luckily We have a great team to do a job like this! Swipe through to learn more...

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southsoundtree · Feb 19, 2021

I would consider rounding over the end of the bolt with a file next time I prop a tree with a bolt.

I would avoid a cradle.

flushcut · Feb 19, 2021

A thru bolt instead of a cradle.
My father in law has a box elder he propped before I married into the family and the scarring from the cradle is apparent.

Tuebor · Feb 19, 2021

I saw this in a park garden in Paris. Hard to see, but they have some kind of padding to protect the tree. Of course it's in a park, so it probably gets inspected frequently.

southsoundtree · Feb 19, 2021

Looks like a terrible design. Anthropomorphizing designer.

At what PSI does a tree have issues?

Maybe Parisian parks are great at maintenance. I wouldn't hold my breathe.

Tuebor · Feb 19, 2021

Well, they are the French.

This "tree" was nearby in the same park. No worry about decay since it's made of bronze.

Merle Nelson · Feb 19, 2021

chiselbit · Feb 19, 2021

Tuebor said:
Well, they are the French.

This "tree" was nearby in the same park. No worry about decay since it's made of bronze.

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Seriously? That is a bronze “statue”? That thing would be gone in one weekend around here. The tweekers would cut it up with hacksaws and scrap it for drug money

Winchman · Feb 19, 2021

Did they build a form to cast it in place?

Tuebor · Feb 19, 2021

Winchman said:
Did they build a form to cast it in place?

I don't know if it was produced on-site or elsewhere. The sculptor is Italian, but he could have done it anywhere, I suppose.

It's called L'Arbre des Voyelles - The Tree of Vowels. You can't tell from the photo, but some of the roots are intertwined to make each of the vowels. And then where five of the branches touch the ground are planted five different species of trees, the name of each beginning with one of the vowels.

Tuebor · Feb 19, 2021

Sorry to derail. I didn't get a close look at Nick's prop, but is it free to pivot while still providing support? Sounds like it was cemented in the hole and bolted into the tree. Does a tree still need the ability to grow/flex?

Tom Dunlap · Feb 19, 2021

I gathered that the threaded rod on the top of the prop was a slip-fit in a hole in the tree drilled from the bottom. The branch would be able to move up and sway if the post is flexible.

I think that I'd do a double-nut/washer underneath not just a nut.

Tuebor · Feb 20, 2021

Tom Dunlap said:
I gathered that the threaded rod on the top of the prop was a slip-fit in a hole in the tree drilled from the bottom. The branch would be able to move up and sway if the post is flexible.

I think that I'd do a double-nut/washer underneath not just a nut.

It looked to me like he was screwing that bolt into the drilled hole. And there was another similar prop on another limb. I would have have thought those would be too static to accommodate the short and long period motions of a tree.

evo · Feb 20, 2021

Jzack605 said:
Curious what you all have found to be the best props. A frame, u shaped metal bracket to rest on or what tree care LA is utilizing in the post? Or is this totally dependent on the situation?

Nick Araya on Instagram: "CORAL TREE UPDATE! If you saw our post from January 8- this is the tree. Today we pruned it, installed the prop, cables it, cleaned it, and treated it. Luckily We have a great team to do a job like this! Swipe through to lea

297 likes, 44 comments - treecarela on February 18, 2021: "CORAL TREE UPDATE! If you saw our post from January 8- this is the tree. Today we pruned it, installed the prop, cables it, cleaned it, and treated it. Luckily We have a great team to do a job like this! Swipe through to learn more...

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You have to have them custom fabbed per tree.

NickfromWI · Feb 23, 2021

Hey guys! Glad you’re talking about props!

we use a variety of sizes. Most common is steel, 2.5” OD. The top “cap” is a 5” long threaded insert that sits on top of the round schedule 40 tube.

We used to have them welded but frankly it was annoying having them welded every time we needed a prop. Now we have the component sitting on a shelf ready to go.

if you have questions, fire away!

love
nick

Tom Dunlap · Feb 23, 2021

NickfromWI said:
if you have questions, fire away!

Thanks for coming in, @NickfromWI

Question about the threaded rod on top of the prop. It looks like you used a spade bit to drill a clearance hole in the bottom of the limb. Then you slipped the threaded rod in the hole like a spike in a tarp grommet. The nut is run up to the wood. Why didn't you use a flat washer or the double washer/nut configuration?

I like the looks of the ring weldment for propping.