proper pruning 75' tulip

Re: proper pruning 75\' tulip

Wall 1 is sealed first. It's the weakest of all walls. Wall 4 is the last and the strongest. It is the exterior wall. I hate to sling mud but I can't handle these posts any more. Daniel, you put yourself out there by putting misinformation for us to see. We read it and call you on your flawed education/approach to the science or arboriculture. There are multiple examples of evidence supporting what Shigo and all the other folks are telling you. You should know what the branch bark collar looks like or does before you ever consider pruning a tree, much less putting yourself out there as a professional. Maybe not Poplars but the majority of the trees we work on in virginia will grow epicormic sprouts from long stubs. If you think about the theory of pruning, there is no benefit to leaving a stub. The tree heals at the collar and the wood left as a stub was there merely for storage when it was part of the branch. It serves no purpose other than to look bad. I would like to suggest you glance over "An Illustrated Guide to Pruning", 3rd ed. Ed Gilman. Great book, should clear up all your misinformation.
 
Re: proper pruning 75\' tulip

Guys guys guys. Before trying to point out that Daniel doesn't have a firm grasp of tree biology, consider the fact that you are probably a boy scout. Daniel has been studying secret cuts on wood for over 30 years (that's nearly three decades to you boy scouts). Big Jon Grier personally taught him how to be the best. At everything. Period.

Grow up, guys. Just shut up and watch Daniel's videos and tell him how great he is.

SZ
 
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Grow up, guys. Just shut up and watch Daniel's videos and tell him how great he is.


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Seriously. You're all trying to tell Micheal Jordan how to do a jump shot. Jeez.
 
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Wall 1 is sealed first. It's the weakest of all walls. Wall 4 is the last and the strongest. It is the exterior wall. I hate to sling mud but I can't handle these posts any more. Daniel, you put yourself out there by putting misinformation for us to see. We read it and call you on your flawed education/approach to the science or arboriculture. There are multiple examples of evidence supporting what Shigo and all the other folks are telling you. You should know what the branch bark collar looks like or does before you ever consider pruning a tree, much less putting yourself out there as a professional. Maybe not Poplars but the majority of the trees we work on in virginia will grow epicormic sprouts from long stubs. If you think about the theory of pruning, there is no benefit to leaving a stub. The tree heals at the collar and the wood left as a stub was there merely for storage when it was part of the branch. It serves no purpose other than to look bad. I would like to suggest you glance over "An Illustrated Guide to Pruning", 3rd ed. Ed Gilman. Great book, should clear up all your misinformation.

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I own and have read both the 3rd and the 4th edition. I've communicated with Gilman and Shigo's former colleagues about the flaws in target pruning... Just take a look at any street in suburban america and you can see the improper cuts left, some 30 years after the industry started teaching target pruning..

Target pruning looks good on paper, but in the real world. it has problems... this industy is in denial about that..

You can call a hollow 85' tulip tree "fully comparmentalized" with wall 4 being a given. I call it a potential hazard. Anyone that looks at those large calouses and thinks the tree is OK, is out of their minds.. Combine those old wounds with the new ones left in the last year or two and that tree has real problems..

Here are a couple things Guy M shared ar AS..

"Re collars at branch origins being the only or always the best places for compartmentalization...

That is unfortunate misinformation
Dogma with no scientific basis
The same BPZ is present at other nodes"

and

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1 1/2" cuts do not all need to be perfectly "clean". collars not a huge deal when the tissue is very young.
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Given that no one here has anywhere near the knowledge and experience that Guy has, I'll continue to keep my own advice..
 
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"I own and have read both the 3rd and the 4th edition."

Now that is impressive seeing that the 3rd edition just came out 3 months ago.

When I see Ed this week I'll ask him about this special 4th edition.
 
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Now you're just dog-piling.
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SZ
 
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Daniel is the 4th edition (in his own world).

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I wouldn't be surprised if Gilman just forgot to give Daniel Murphy credit in his latest edition, so he made a 4th edition just for Daniel.


You guys are so sure about what can't be done, when it is being videotaped and done right in front of you.

Long Live Daniel Murphy! Holder of the secret cut knowledge!


SZ
 
Re: proper pruning 75\' tulip

I own and have read both the 3rd and the 4th edition. I've communicated with Gilman and Shigo's former colleagues about the flaws in target pruning...

...... And that's when they got the restraining order.......
 
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