Portland neighbors fight to save rare tree

According to some folks who were at the meeting, the developer signed a heritage tree petition. Can someone who was there confirm this?

If true, this would constitute significant legal protection for the tree which will continue for the life of the tree, regardless of who owns the property in the future.
 
evo said:
Check your facts. Barred owls are not native to the PNW.. Also I've haven't heard anything of them hybridizing, The barred owls will take out spotted owls utter slaughter, and other wise out compete the spotted owls...

http://www.fws.gov/oregonfwo/species/data/northernspottedowl/BarredOwl/default.asp

"Barred owls are native to eastern North America. It is believed they began expanding west of the Mississippi River around the turn of the 20th century. This could have been a natural range expansion or human-caused, or a combination of both. The most common theory is that the barred owl’s westward movement was caused by changes to the environment in the Great Plains as people increasingly settled there and dramatically altered the landscape. This may have removed natural barriers that previously inhibited the barred owl’s westward expansion. "
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Oh please, check YOUR facts. Or get educated on the subject. Barred owls are and have been breeding with spotted owls since their arrival here. That is not my opinion. Spotted owls also hunt and kill and eat pigmy owls and song birds, if you want to talk about slaughter (I raised pigmy owls when I lived in Southern Oregon). So please, spare us how noble and great they are. Barred owls simply have a wider range of habitat and can easily out compete the spotted owl. Like it or not, barred owls will replace all three sub-species the spotted owls by breeding them out and displacing them by competition. Or by creating a hybrid species. It is inevitable, no matter how many idiots with guns shoot barred owls with your tax dollars.

The way I see it you have your collective heads in the sand if you are going to get all riled up over one specific species (if you can even call them a species) while we have caused the 6th great extinction of this planet. There are millions of other species, many of which are far more important going by the wayside. The CO2 absorption by the colder north Pacific waters is already causing rapid acidity, and marine species are likely going to be cut in half, and in a very short time. Like on the order of decades. Never mind the invasive plant species that we have brought into the environment here. I gave up trying to remove them some years ago.

The fact is that 99,9% of all species become extinct. We will become extinct. And likely at our own hand. And likely soon at the rate we are going. Oh, sorry, that is not a lovely positive outcome for humanity, is it?
 
Wow this is getting fun... So lets say we should do the developer a favor and cut down that darn tree since it's doomed any way. While were are at lets avoid the inevitable and put the gunning sights on the last of the spotted owls, they are screwed any way.... For your info if you would have read the link, which I know you didn't, you could have thrown it back in my face because it states that they are hybridizing. I never stated that the spotted owl is noble or great, it's just another endangered specie. Just like our noble bald eagle (now non endangered) which behaviorally is just like a cowardous vulture that would rather eat maggot filled road kill than hunt for one of the many invasive eastern cotton tail rabbits. I'm an expert on that FACT I've seen it once...

I have no Portland pride, and haven't lived there for some time now, but can you please tell me (when I pull my head from the sand) what being a pedophile has to do with being gay? Or more importantly a walnut tree?
 
Uh Windthrown this thread is about a single hybrid Juglans that resides in Southeast Portland. As a northwesterner surely you know that coming into a conversation by giving your opinion on the northern spotted owl is about equivalent to coming to a party and throwing a grenade through the window. It's pretty poor form, regardless of the facts about the interactions of barred and spotted owls.

The rest of you guys, perhaps you could not throw gas on the fire. I mean really, do you have nothing better to do than bait people and argue on the internet?
 
I don't care if bald eagles outcompete vultures for roadkill; I just hope they don't hybridize and lose their good looks. We built em some nest bases in snags by a lake and they're coming in to stay.
Like the spotted owl, and the Paradox Tree, it's what they stand for--the value and contributions of old trees. We've lost a lot, let's keep some too.

22 climbers got up there on a rainy day (oh that's right, OR)--great! but instead of/along with pruning, if ya really want to get *radical*, how about a Root Care Day?
 
Hi all, just created an account to let you know the latest on this tree. I was part of the climb and was at the meeting. The developer did sign the heritage tree application and it is being fasttracked, through the normally yearlong process, as we speak. We offered consultations and tree care for free (from the arborist community)for the tree if he would make it a heritage tree. The developer has a very competant arborist working on the project who is helping revise the building and site plan for minimal impact. We already have offered to do a day of rootcare.

This specimen tree was supposed to be removed by now. Thanks to concerned neighbors, a great local arborist communityand Kevin Hillery, it is now going to be protected and the developement will likely even be named after the tree. Kevin really deserves a pat on the back for this,he found out about this developement and immediately started contacting local media,who did several stories right away in print and on television. He organised the climb and really made this happen in large part.
Such a quick and unexpected happy ending on this one.
 
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