Plymouth, MA crane accident

I don't think he was short set. Pics from this article are a little dark.
http://m.plymouth.wickedlocal.com/article/20151221/NEWS/151229078
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Yes you're right, not short set, maybe it is sunk into the ground though since I dropped the aluminum pad.
 
State and federal governments. I'm in NY and a new law was passed demanding licensing for anything with a boom over 40' of stick in the air. The small businessmen suffer in the long run. NY has been ranking 2nd to worst for sm buis. to operate, and corporate buis. continue to grow larger. I can't wait to get the hell out of here.
No new laws in NY as far as I know. There has been a requirement for Crane Certification for a long time. They have recently issued an interpretation of the law that includes tree services recently though.

As far as the regulation you are only required a certification if you have a crane with a hoist line. If you get a Kboom no Cert is needed as far as NY goes.
 
State and federal governments. I'm in NY and a new law was passed demanding licensing for anything with a boom over 40' of stick in the air. The small businessmen suffer in the long run. NY has been ranking 2nd to worst for sm buis. to operate, and corporate buis. continue to grow larger. I can't wait to get the hell out of here.

Isn't New York an OSHA state? So any new law would have to come from the Federal level? It's really unfortunate when reality gets in the way of a good rant about victimization.

https://www.osha.gov/dcsp/osp/index.html
 
No new laws in NY as far as I know. There has been a requirement for Crane Certification for a long time. They have recently issued an interpretation of the law that includes tree services recently though.

As far as the regulation you are only required a certification if you have a crane with a hoist line. If you get a Kboom no Cert is needed as far as NY goes.
This good news to me even though I plan on vacating this political dump. My source of info came from an iron worker who I also do tree work with. I was under the impression that anything with a stick more than 40' is affected. Be it crane, bucket, or knuckle. I will ask him about it again when I see him in a few days. I will post my findings.
Btw are you in NY?
 
Isn't New York an OSHA state? So any new law would have to come from the Federal level? It's really unfortunate when reality gets in the way of a good rant about victimization.

https://www.osha.gov/dcsp/osp/index.html
I agree with the victimization. Yes NY loves OSHA. But I think this is only on the state level. I only mentioned OSHA in reference to when an injury occurs they're there like vultures ready to hand out fines and violations. Stay safe everyone.
 
Yes NY loves OSHA. But I think this is only on the state level..

I believe that is impossible. New York has not done everything needed to have a fully state implemented employee safety program. Until they do so, such laws are strictly the domain of the Feds.

What your friend is probably bemoaning is the crane operators certification program passed in 2010, which was supposed to become effective in 2015. That has been moved to 2017. In any case, it only affects those covered by 1926. The ruling is based on capacity, not boom length. Your friend is crying about old news that both of you should have been aware of half a decade ago.
 
Dougfir, this is very possible. He only mentioned something about it briefly when contemplating a new bucket purchase and possibly grabbing a crane. I'm sure he is fully aware of the state laws here, being that his outfit in iron work owns a couple of cranes. He did mention something about "anything with 40' of stick in the air or greater". It was a brief conversation on the way to a job. I was sitting in the back seat and my hearing loss is gaining. I didn't hear everything word for word. I do know NY is not small business friendly. I will ask him again about the "40' of stick". Now I'm very curious.
 
Yeah, rules and regs suck. But if business wasn't always trying to do more with less and guys trying to prove who swings a bigger stick then there would be less oversight. However, time and again, its proved that business, big or small, doesn't manage itself well. In this case, nobody else paid for that with their life.
 
Yeah, rules and regs suck. But if business wasn't always trying to do more with less and guys trying to prove who swings a bigger stick then there would be less oversight. However, time and again, its proved that business, big or small, doesn't manage itself well. In this case, nobody else paid for that with their life.
Amen ... My 1 ton dump came from Mt Snow, Vt. On the fender is a sticker. It's a logo with the words: Work safe Work smart above and below it. I left that sticker on and peeled of the one on the door with the company name.
 
Yes I live in NY
New York has its own certification. New York City has a separate one from the state. Here is the info from NYS Department of Certifications:
Crane Classifications
A Crane Operator Certificate of Competence is required to operate a crane in New York State while operating cranes in connection with construction, demolition and excavation work. This requirement applies to all cranes having a manufacture's maximum rated capacity exceeding five tons or over forty feet of boom length and to all tower cranes.

The NYS Department of Labor License & Certification Unit administers Operational exams for the following classifications of cranes.

  • Class A - Unrestricted – Conventional, cable, lattice boom, and friction are names that have been used in reference to this classification. This classification includes all cranes having a fixed lattice boom, with or without free fall capability; conventional tower cranes, derricks and all cranes with free fall capability. Class A allows operation of any crane.
  • Class B - Hydraulic – This includes all hydraulic cranes which have a telescopic boom and swinging cab; there is no restriction on maximum manufacturer’s rating. This classification also includes smaller trailer or truck mounted self-erecting tower cranes, as well as boom trucks having over 28 ton manufacturer’s rated capacity. Class B allows operation of B, C & D.
  • Class C - Boom Truck – This includes cranes having telescopic booms which are generally truck mounted and up to 28 ton maximum manufacturer’s rated capacity. Class C allows operation of C & D.
  • Class D - Restricted Boom Truck – These cranes are also referred to as sign hangers, but their use is not restricted to that industry. This includes cranes having telescopic booms which are generally truck mounted and up to 3 ton maximum manufacturer’s rated capacity, and up to 125 feet of boom. Class D allows operation of D only.
  • Class E – Reserved.
  • Class F - Line Truck – These cranes are also referred to as digger derricks. It is up to 15 ton maximum manufacturer’s rated capacity, 65 foot maximum boom length, utilizing a non-conductive tip with nylon rope, for use in electrical applications only. Class F allows operation of F only.
Here is a bill in the senate which would make it much easier for NYS residents.

BILL NUMBER:S4122

TITLE OF BILL:
An act
to amend the general business law, in relation to crane operations

PURPOSE OR GENERAL IDEA OF BILL:
To expand the qualifications
permitted to license crane operators

SUMMARY OF SPECIFIC PROVISIONS:
Section 1 - amends subdivision 2 of
section 483 of the General Business Law to provide that a Crane
Operator's Certificate of Competence shall be issued to an applicant
who has a current crane Operator's license issued by the National
Commission fur the Certification of Crane Operators or by the Federal
Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

Section 2 - provides that this act shall become effective immediately.

JUSTIFICATION:
Currently, a crane operator's certificate of
competence, which authorizes an individual to operate a crane in New
York State, can only be issued based upon fulfilling criteria set
forth by the Commissioner of Labor. Recently, OSHA implemented a new
national crane operators' license program. In addition, the National
Commission for Certification of Crane Operators issues crane licenses
that are widely recognized across the country. This license requires
a written exam, a practical exam, and recurrent testing to continue
to meet OSHA requirements. Accepting these standards, which are in
many ways more stringent than current state standards, can help to
improve the quality and supply of crane operators, possibly reduce
state testing costs, and allow the state to better compete with the
rest of the nation.

PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:
New bill.
 
Here is the response to me from the Department of Labor


New York State General Business Law section 482 (1) states: “No individual shall …, operate a crane,… without holding a valid certificate of competence issued by the commissioner of labor.” In addition, Title 12 New York Code Rules and Regulations (NYCRR) Section 23-1.4 (a)(13) states in relevant part that: “All work of the types performed in the construction, erection, alteration, repair, maintenance, painting or moving of buildings or other structures, whether or not such work is performed in proximate relation to a specific building or other structure…“(emphasis added).

The operation of a crane in NYS that presents a hazard to the public or any manmade structure would require a certified operator in New York state. If unsure you may consult the local industry inspection office of the department of labor to review your specific worksite.
 
Little girl is so smart..."we hire the tree company to keep the trees from damaging our house...and it backfired". There is incompetence here somewhere...no headsets, inexperience on one or both sides of the boom, setting rigs on houseside, downhill grade on saturated ground, too big of a pick, underestimation of weight by climber, improper detachment of piece, under capacity equipment, shockloading by improper hookup or over tensioned hookup...something somewhere.

Black eye to PR. No sympathy here.
 

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