petzl rope wrench

that's a long story. ISC approached me repeatedly about making the wrench. I finally gave in after my hopes to make it in Detroit or at least the USA seemed to be going nowhere. ISC is great to work with. the Runner however was to soon after the wrench for ISC to wrap their head around. They also at thatt time had sunk all their time and energy into developing their descender line for the much larger rope access world. I would have had to wait for a few years. I was probably in too much of a hurry. I should have been less worried about taking on a loan to keep up the effort. I was almost broke at the time because I had been spending all my days in the shop on the runner and I was not doing much treework. Luke at treestuff took the opportunity to bail me out and take it from there. I do believe ISC regrets a bit not taking the runner. I think they could have done an amazing job with it.
 
Ill never use a petzl anything ever again.

2 months into using their second gen sequioa saddle, the underside of their rope bridge severed itself mid climb, dead centre where the ring would normally be if you were just hanging in position.


If the bridge failure didnt have me hesitant to use their products, petzl professionally wiped their hands clean and told me to go fuck myself regarding the issue.

Haven't used a piece of peztl gear since, and I actively go out of my way to avoid their products and inform other local climbers of every recall and stupid design they have had.
 

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Ill never use a petzl anything ever again.

2 months into using their second gen sequioa saddle, the underside of their rope bridge severed itself mid climb, dead centre where the ring would normally be if you were just hanging in position.


If the bridge failure didnt have me hesitant to use their products, petzl professionally wiped their hands clean and told me to go fuck myself regarding the issue.

Haven't used a piece of peztl gear since, and I actively go out of my way to avoid their products and inform other local climbers of every recall and stupid design they have had.
Attitudes like that will get someone killed or maimed. Remember Weaver and the first generation Cougar.
Referring to petzl's response to you dblehron
 
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Ill never use a petzl anything ever again.

2 months into using their second gen sequioa saddle, the underside of their rope bridge severed itself mid climb, dead centre where the ring would normally be if you were just hanging in position.


If the bridge failure didnt have me hesitant to use their products, petzl professionally wiped their hands clean and told me to go fuck myself regarding the issue.

Haven't used a piece of peztl gear since, and I actively go out of my way to avoid their products and inform other local climbers of every recall and stupid design they have had.
WTF! the bridge looks used and a little fuzzed up, but not cool way not cool
 
Interesting, I just haven't used the RW tether that way. Might just give it a whirl.
Have given this a go, it's good. Grabbing the tether for positioning is really useful. Great when your way out horizontal on a limb walk and need to get back up.

Related, I've just read of local climber who is squeezing the tether against the hitch on descent. It helps transfer friction to the RW. I'll try this out soon too. Might be another good RW nugget.
 
I grab the tether on the RW all the time, most of the tethers out there are very grippable, the Petzl tether hand grip design (essentially a handled ascender design) does nothing to improve stationary system climbing ergonomics, handled ascenders are a completely different paradigm, they may be stuck in a time warp.
-AJ
Damn straight, time warp.
 
you can add this to the interesting conversation of intellectual property... big companies not bothering to be creative....
Big companies don't have to be creative they have lobbied where needed and changed the rules. You can debate, use logic, make arguments, compare claims, take sides etc. etc. but size does matter and the small individual will not win on this board game.
 
Perhaps I am repeating myself, but many years ago in another job far, far away, the department in which I worked in the Government of Canada was also in charge of the Bureau of Intellectual Property. I watched a case where a farmer in Saskatchewan who had invented a novel design for a farm implement hitch to a tractor had filed for patents for his invention. He tried and tried to market the thing, but in the end folded and sold said patents to a huge farm implement dealer in the US and voila! - his design became the standard farm setup for years to come, maybe worldwide for all I know.
Bottom line, in my own business of 25 yrs or so, I watched great ideas come to light in software, then the inventors sold out to much larger company's who had the marketing, legal departments, etc. etc. Some made it and some (like Q Sound, a competitor to Dolby who didn't really make it) gave way to far larger firms who had absolute control of their markets and don't want what are called "scramble competitors" chipping away. All of this isn't invention or tree work - it is business. No Business! I would encourage folks to read some business books before embarking on the full scale development/ retail sale thing - The Discipline of Market Leaders by Micheal Treacy, or Startup by Gerry Kaplan and many others in small business libraries. Or here's a weird idea - perhaps we should consider other business models for innovative tree climbing gear development - what about a Co-op? Look at MEC in Canada or REI, both very successful. No reason why it can't be done with tree gear? Years ago in Shell, I met a brilliant young man from Belgium I think it was who was doing his Masters thesis in business - on various models of business Co-ops around the workd and their case studies. There's gotta be other ways to do this. What is it the RCMP has in their motto - "Maintain Le Droit" (Maintain the Right). Can it be that the ideas are new but we keep trying to ram them into the same business model over and over?
 
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