Peter Donzelli & Jerry Garcia

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Guys, I think this thread has gone the way the Soviets' Communist system went-to hell.


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Maybe this thread is going the way of China's communist system - forward.

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That's a good point. You may be right.
 
Whatever system claims to work or not - the reality is a former communist nation and a current one hold the right to recall the debt our system got us into and only they can determine if we sink or swim.

Who's your daddy?
 
oakwilt for president!
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You make a lot of valid points but its hard to care when your faced with two people like cheany and obama. I had to ask my pops if there ever was an election that had a clear winner and everyone didn't feel like the best worse choice. Its sad they we are faced with this choice. The last 2 elections I've voted in, mickey mouse got my vote.
 
Books that are released near the time a nation selects a leader are just to influence our choice and always originate from the bowels of the other candidate's party.

Here's the current status and "truth" claims by both sides:

Obama's a Manchurian Muslim.

McCain was a paid Hanoi Jane.

Although Obama's side pretty much proved he isn't, McCain's never explained his top-notch medical and preferential treatment as captive.


What I do know is this - if Exxon/Mobil sends money to help a candidate and he'she wins, it won't be on our interests what the long-term outcome is. Follow the money.
 
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What I do know is this - if Exxon/Mobil sends money to help a candidate and he'she wins, it won't be on our interests what the long-term outcome is. Follow the money.

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I hear you there brother!
 
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/top-ceos-give-10-times-more-to-mccain-than-to-obama-2008-08-15.html

The fattest and richest CEO's donate to the man they want running things their way - while individual working Americans send ten's and twenties to the other guy. That speaks volumes about our global situation and the tightening belts at home - the Kenneth Lay's out there don't care if our sons die on foreign soil as long as their portfolios keep swelling and the bottom line's cutting costs while dividends multiply.

From a personal perspective, any Muslim extremist - or moderate - never crimped my style or threatened my own family but sure as hell Bush and his party has.
 
I think I know anyway. you mean it was all a set up to make it look like there were US hero's in Vietnam sacrificing everything for the folks back home. It was all a scam. He was really in a large aircraft hanger in Utah, where they also filmed the phoney moon landings.
 
No, it just means that while he was a captive, there were other G.I.'s in the same cell block who have some interesting things to recall about McCain's preferential treatment. The well-known organization POW-MIA, has some very nasty things to say about Sen. McCain's repeated legislative actions to usurp their efforts on locating and repatriating missing-in-action U.S. servicemen's remains.

Lately his story of the prison guard's scratching into the soil a Holy Cross on Christmas Eve, in front of McCain's cell, is taken directly from Alexander Solzenitzen's GULAG ARCHEPELAGO's story of confinement in a Soviet camp in Siberia, forty years before. That should make one wonder about his sincerity and honesty, that's all.
 
ok...ok, but what exactly is a 'Hanoi Jane'?

Someone who had preferential treatment? if so, why did he get preferential treatment?

like Robert De Niro and Christopher Walken in The Deer Hunter?
 
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Lately his story of the prison guard's scratching into the soil a Holy Cross on Christmas Eve, in front of McCain's cell, is taken directly from Alexander Solzenitzen's GULAG ARCHEPELAGO's story of confinement in a Soviet camp in Siberia, forty years before. That should make one wonder about his sincerity and honesty, that's all.

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Lets face it oakwilt, McCain was banking on the fact that only 2% of Americans read books, and of that 2%, only .025 would read Solzenitzen as the rest would assume he was just some commie bast*rd and continue on with their goal of reading every book Stephen King ever wrote.
 
Hanoi Jane would be a Tokyo Rose - a friendly voice broadcast to our troops from the enemy's radio station. There was lot's of rock and roll, messages from home, appeals to drop weapons and run, and the most effective - individual's names and positions and sordid secrets. How they would get this info nobody knew but suspected intelligence sources from our side. The spooks (our spooks) played both sides, answered to no one but some dirtbag in D.C.

McCain's already stolen word for word, Wikipedia's posted Middle East history, American Foreign Policy page, and used Lieberman's explanation of there being two warring factions of Islam (Shia and Sunni) operating in Iraq - when he didn't know there was more than one kind of Muslim - last Fall while in Baghdad. For him to borrow from Solzenietzen some passage for readers with faith doesn't suprize me and for people here to miss that doesn't either - don't forget almost half the voting public - it is claimed - voted for Bush twice.
 
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Lately his story of the prison guard's scratching into the soil a Holy Cross on Christmas Eve, in front of McCain's cell, is taken directly from Alexander Solzenitzen's GULAG ARCHEPELAGO's story of confinement in a Soviet camp in Siberia, forty years before. That should make one wonder about his sincerity and honesty, that's all.

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Lets face it oakwilt, McCain was banking on the fact that only 2% of Americans read books, and of that 2%, only .025 would read Solzenitzen as the rest would assume he was just some commie bast*rd and continue on with their goal of reading every book Stephen King ever wrote.

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That's a Boo-Ya on top of another Boo-Ya!



Boo-Yas alll around!


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Hanoi Jane would be a Tokyo Rose - a friendly voice broadcast to our troops from the enemy's radio station.

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So is this the original 'Hanoi Jane'?

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After she broadcast from North Vietnam the North Vietnamese thought it'd be a good idea to do more of that kind of thing?
 
Talk about a Hanoi Hybrid: Sen. John McJane!

Think I'll send that on to Karl Rove so he can use it to shift the attention his boy's getting from not knowing how many houses he owns.
 
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Think I'll send that on to Karl Rove so he can use it to shift the attention his boy's getting from not knowing how many houses he owns.

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What, like you don't momentarily forget how many properties you CURRENTLY own?

Totally understandable, and makes me feel like McCain understands what the average American is going through financially these days.


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MAN have you guys taken this tread around the block. Its time to turn the corner and move on down the road.
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Robert,

I'm with Ya.

Pete was a GREAT guy, I don't think anyone that meet Pete didn't consider him a friend. I miss the Pete/Stanley duo as well.

I never had the chance to meet Jerry, but I did see him play a few dozen times.
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