One-man speedline w/a traveling crane- pic intense

Not an actual traveling crane like you'd see at a construction site, but a tree rigger's version of the concept.

I realize this may be common knowledge to you guys, but I hadn't seen it before and didn't quite know how to search to see if it had been posted before, so enjoy if it's a first, forgive if it's been posted before.

Here's the situation. I needed to remove a good sized limb from my neighbor's tree. I suspect the same lightning bolt that killed the top third of my maple tree got his limb just across the fence from my tree. Anyway, I like to squeeze everything I can out of an opportunity to learn more about limb removal techniques like you guys do as easily as putting on your climbing boots.

First, this constriction for me - I have no groundies; so if I'm up the tree and need something to be done on the ground, I have to go down and do it and if necessary climb back up.

My plan was to pull the limb upward with a block and tackle with as much of the limb in tact as possible. I would then speed line it down to a 'clean' spot. Then I came up with the crazy idea of what if I needed to stop it somewhere along the speedline and lower it straight to the ground??? That's where the traveling crane concept came into play. I realize there are other ways to accomplish this, but remember, it's just me; nobody on the other end or on the ground to do anything. So it is quite advantageous to me to be able to do everything from the tree - control the position on the speedline and the vertical hight. The following pics illustrate the rigging I came up with and it worked great.

The pre-thinking paid off big! I rigged all of the ground ropes, and the traveling crane arrangement while on the ground. I attached a control line and the thing was ready to install in the tree. Sounds easy when you just say it.

What you’ll be seeing in the following pics is a combination of the actual limb removal and a demo set up I set up yesterday, specifically for pics. The real thing was too high off the ground, etc. so a lot of the details, esp. the rigging, couldn’t be captured very well by the camera. Pics with the long limb is the actual thing; with the short log is the demo set up.

Here’s a couple of pics of the ground work, both are of the demo setup:

traveling crane rigging takes a lot of gear, rope, and a good dog:
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rigging done on the ground:
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In the above pic, the ropes to the right are anchored to a tree with a 1” tubular webbing in a W2P1, a small Petzl Paw and three biners. The ropes were attached to the biners via scaffold hitches.

Maybe a word or two about the crane concept. Because of the pulley arrangement and the fact that one end of the crane line is attached to a fixed ground anchor and the other end is fixed via a pulley, the load can travel along the speed line with no change in elevation other than the speedline’s change in elevation. If the speedline were tight and horizontal, the load could be moved full length of the speedline without a change in elevation except for speedline sag. The load could be stopped at any point, and lowered or raised by releasing or pulling on the crane line.

The speed line is PMI 11mm EzBend (EzB) and the traveling crane line is 5/16” KMIII. The control line is also 5/16” KMIII. The crane line has to be longer than either the speed line or the control line because when the load is lowered, it requires double the line for the distance dropped.

It would be somewhat helpful if the control and crane lines could be a different types or colors of rope, but it’s really pretty easy to keep track of what’s what by the position of the ropes in the tree.

The demo is unique in that I didn’t have a limb already in the tree so I went ahead and attached a load limb from the ground. The thought being that once everything is installed, I’d pull up the load log to the crane pulley and then pull the control line to move the log up to the tree where I’d be.

FWIW, the crane part is a theoretical 2:1, meaning that theoretically you would only have to pull the crane line with half the force the log weighs to raise it. However, pulley efficiency it is very significant - even moreso for the 'trolley' travel down the speed line.

With that much done, the next step is to shoot a throwline over a convenient limb and pull up each end of three ropes. It really doesn’t matter a whole lot where the limb is, just so you can access the ropes when you get in the tree. Here’s the three ropes tied to the throwline ready to be hauled up and over a limb.

throwline and ropes ready to pull:
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From the ground, I’ll pull most of the slack out of the lines so it starts to look like this:

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Now it’s time to climb.

When all the rigging in the tree is done, it looks like this:
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It’s difficult to see in the pic, but there’s a Z rig on the speed line to tension it. I used 8mm 3WP to attach the upper pulley of the Z to the speed line, and another 8mm 3WP to the lower pulley to act as a progress capture. The 8mm is the green cordage and it’s pretty hard to see in the pic. The control line and the crane line are 5/16” lines so they have a 7mm 3WP. Each line is run through a separate pulley and anchored to a common anchor. All the anchors are 1” tubular webbing girth hitched around the tree. Everything worked, as they say, just like the book said it would.

Here’s some pics of the demo log in various locations and at various heights:

In the tree near me:
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About half way down the speed line:
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And finally from the same location on the speed line as above, but lowered to the ground.
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Ok, so much for demo stuff, on to the actual removal. The setup is basically the same as seen in the demo pics. Unfortunately I don’t have a pic of the block and tackle I used to pull the limb up and free of the lower limbs. I took several pics, but the camera I took the pics on is not connecting to my computer for some reason. Anyway, I set up a 3:1 using a Petzl Twin and a CMI single pulley with a becket. Pretty much a big overkill, but it worked fine, it was just a bit heavier duty than it needed to be. Two Petzl Gemnis would have done job just as well, but hey, you use what you’ve got.

So lacking pics from my other camera, here’s some my wife took from the ground. While she’s taking the pics, I’m up in the tree, manipulating the control and crane lines. Here’s the limb about midway down the speed line:

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And lowered some at the same spot:
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And in it’s final resting spot:
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One more thing I learned about the crane setup – the Tandem, while it looks like the ideal tool for the job, has a problem. The Tandem slants almost to the same angle as the crane line, while the load ropes come down vertically. This causes the rope to rub on part of the frame, actually a frame edge which creates friction, wear on the pulley frame and rope. I’ve got a new system worked out to fix that and hopefully I can post a few pics of the newer version sans the Tandem.
 
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Wow.

Ron, it's good to see you back, I hadn't seen you for a while!


Thanks for posting all of the pictures, the written description lost me (I suffer from severe ADHD, Blinky told me so), but once I saw the pictures, it all became clear.

Thanks again!

SZ
 
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Thanks SZ, it's good to be back. I teach at a community college and two of our three electrical professors retired this year and that just left me. I wound up with almost double the class/student load I ususally carry, so I haven't had a lot of spare time.

I'm starting to ease back into a 'normal' life, but my summer is complicated too. Anyway, I just said all of that to explain my long absence and I hope I can participate more - the more I read, the more I appreciate the skills, knowledge, and abilities arborist exhibit everyday in their trade.

LOL! I hear ya on the ADHD, I think we all have a touch of it - sorta explains why we say a pic is worth a thousand words.
 
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Nice write up Ron. I have seen things like this before (like the one Jerry used at the Tree House), but that was really well explained. I'm sure others will get some great ideas from this.

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Thanks Mark - would there be any pics of the one Jerry used????
 
Cool I guess. Not to be rude I think that it is really cool, but I just dont think anyone should climb, much less do actual work in a tree by themselves. If it is a monetary issue a groundie more than pays for themselves so that you dont have to do stuff like you were doin. And if I had to climb down everytime I needed anything I would quit treework. And lastly working by yourself is incredibly dangerous. I am not the safety police, although my crews and I follow the rules, it is just the whole thing of working by oneself scares the crap out of me because of the stories I have heard. You know, like you cut your rope and fall 40' and would have lived but you are immobilized and there is no one to get you anywhere, so you lay there and DIE. Sorry if I am being a jerk. I am not trying to be. I just care.

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Cool I guess. Not to be rude I think that it is really cool, but I just dont think anyone should climb, much less do actual work in a tree by themselves. If it is a monetary issue a groundie more than pays for themselves so that you dont have to do stuff like you were doin. And if I had to climb down everytime I needed anything I would quit treework. And lastly working by yourself is incredibly dangerous. I am not the safety police, although my crews and I follow the rules, it is just the whole thing of working by oneself scares the crap out of me because of the stories I have heard. You know, like you cut your rope and fall 40' and would have lived but you are immobilized and there is no one to get you anywhere, so you lay there and DIE. Sorry if I am being a jerk. I am not trying to be. I just care.

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Excellent points about safety. However, in this case, the tree I was working in is 75' outside my big back window. My wife and I are in constant contact via walkie-talkies. She takes a look out to see how I'm doing regularly, and if she can't see me, she calls me on the walkie-talkie to check my status.

While I completely agree with you about solo work, this was in my own yard, well just outside my yard in my neighbor's yard - with his permission, so I had constant supervision. Should something happen in a tree, I doubt a groundie, unfamiliar with climbing and in-tree rescue could do any more than my wife and 911.

I don't even rec climb if my wife isn't home or for the case in the wild, unless someone is with me.
 
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(I suffer from severe ADHD, Blinky told me so)

SZ

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You don't suffer from it... you wallow in it gleefully.

Cool stuff, fun to play with, but I have to agree with Bivyless, too complicated for my taste. This is precisely the sort of experimentation you can do to stay proficient and develop new techniques. Definitely innovative. Thanks for the excellent pics.

Side note: I work solo pretty often on pruning and falling, it's less safe but not unnecessarily dangerous. Since I too gleefully wallow in ADHD, it's less distracting.
 
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Well that's one reason I posted the technique to get some thoughts about other ways to do it. I'm not suggesting to use this in lieu of cutting and dropping limbs, but rather it's one way to meet the following constraints:

1- solo all the way
2- cannot drop the limb within 25 feet of the tree it's in.
3- cannot drop the limb within 25 feet of the ground tie tree
4- it basically has to come down in an area about 30 feet from the tree the limb is being removed from.
5- the big one - because you're solo, all control must be done from the tree, that's where you'll be when you cut and ready the limb for removal.

So your thoughts on a less complicated approach that would meet the constraints? Well, something other than cutting the limbs (there were actually two limbs about the same size) up into pieces so small they could be thrown to the clean spot about 30 or so feet from the tree? Throwing wasn't a viable option in this case.

Suggestions????
 
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Ron, I'd like to see that rig in action to fully understand how it works. I get where your coming from though.

The "Sky-Line" as I called it in the "Tree House Project" was a block positioned out on a static line strung between the tops of the tree being worked in, and another over 200 feet away. It simply offered a rigging point where one could not have been had otherwise. And no where near the amount of rigging you show here.

Could you do a model demonstration of how your rig works on video?

Thanks for good ideas!
 
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Hey Ron...what community college? If you don't mind me asking

[/ QUOTE ]We are now Chattanooga State Community College; we used to be Chattanooga State Technical Community College, but all the technical community colleges got together and agreed to drop 'Technical' from the name. Although I teach in the Electrical/Electronics Engineering Technology Division, I can't say that I mind the change. We'll be teaching more technology in the Fall than we have since I've been at the school, so it's just a name change.
 
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Ron, I'd like to see that rig in action to fully understand how it works. I get where your coming from though.

The "Sky-Line" as I called it in the "Tree House Project" was a block positioned out on a static line strung between the tops of the tree being worked in, and another over 200 feet away. It simply offered a rigging point where one could not have been had otherwise. And no where near the amount of rigging you show here.

Could you do a model demonstration of how your rig works on video?

Thanks for good ideas!

[/ QUOTE ]You got it! I'd love to set it up and do a video; I've intended to from the start and kinda let is slide, but this will give me a nice project for this afternoon!!

The doing and videoing is the easy part. I'm on a dial-up connection
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so I may have to upload overnight - most of the night probably!
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The format you upload the video matters a lot in how long it takes.

It might be easier to shoot and edit at home and then upload at a friends.

However you manage it I look forward to seeing it.

Thanks
 
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I grasp and uderstand the technique.I am going do digest it more before I comment!
SOme things to dig into,
1.When to use, the application. (this seems complex to set up.
2.Loading,rigging forces etc.
 
I am trying to understand this. not really sure if I drew this correctly. its hard for me non English person to understand all the abbreviations. would be nice if someone could draw something like this to clarify . It could end up being better than pictures. as of now its kind of like an unfinished thread. also will there be an update on the new version to prevent wear on the tandem? I am slow thinker when it comes to reading forums, I tried hard for at least an hour to understand this, sorry , please don't laugh. don't get me wrong , I see how it works now, but not all the details.
 
I am trying to understand this. not really sure if I drew this correctly. its hard for me non English person to understand all the abbreviations. would be nice if someone could draw something like this to clarify . It could end up being better than pictures. as of now its kind of like an unfinished thread. also will there be an update on the new version to prevent wear on the tandem? I am slow thinker when it comes to reading forums, I tried hard for at least an hour to understand this, sorry , please don't laugh. don't get me wrong , I see how it works now, but not all the details.
In the drawing you have the KMIII only to one side of the trolley. That would only give you control in one direction horizontally. Have that line connect to the trolley with two butterfly knots allowing it to span the distance of the track line. This way you can control movement in both directions.
 
You've set up what would be referred to as a crane jib traverse. It's a variant of the Tyrolean traverse. A good description is on page 132 of this book. http://www.speleo.no/redning/Life on a line part3.pdf

Generally uses a few more pieces of gear, there's a lot of opportunity for rope-on-rope friction if the lines are too close.



There's another version I played with, can't remember if it had a particular name. It was set up as a drop rig, using a kong duck. Same sort of top line setup and a similar control line, but we had a larger rigging plate instead of the tandem and 2 pulleys on top. The drop rig was an old split tail. Eye splice clipped to the front of the plate, run down to the load biner(speedline slings vs your sling and pulley), then back up to the duck at the rear end of the plate. We'd used the duck because it already has a loop to pull to release the cam, made for easy attachment of a tether, in our case a throwline.

I'd probably make a couple changes if I were going to set up a drop rig traverse again, namely a better, safer release. Possibly replace the drop rig with a purpose-designed item, like the SeaCatch. They've got a nice system for remote release using a tether that even has a safety using a spring pin. First pull on the tether releases the safety, next pull releases the load.

I've also thought about making something with remote control, kind of like the skyline cable yarders used for logging but on a smaller scale.
 

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