New Tribe Onyx Saddle discussion in light of the newest saddle releases

Reach said:
There is more of a monopoly than might be apparent from the outside. Unfortunately Sherrill has the exclusive distribution rights to a surprising number of very common products/brands, which means that if Wesspur, Gap, or Arbsession wants to sell any of these products, they must buy them wholesale from Sherrill (often at prices very similar to Sherrill retail prices) and then resell those products at a higher price point than what Sherrill does, and without making any profit on those items due to what they have to pay to buy them to begin with.
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Btw? I love love love WesSpur ...
They were so good to me.
Always pleasant to deal with.
 
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I buy my flip lines from wesspur, they've got the maxi flip sports with a rope snap and no swivel which is what I like, they've always been good I called to ask a general gear question once and Dave gave me a call back and was helpful even though I wasn't purchasing anything from them at the time.
 
Reach said:
That’s good, I have heard a lot of good about them. Never purchased from them, as Gap Arborist is 11 minutes from my front door, and the owner is a personal friend of mine.

Keep supporting the small companies, they need it!
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Must be nice, our local stihl shop has a bit of climbing stuff but not a ton, there's a store down in sac that has a pretty good collection but it's a 45 minute drive one way at a good time of day.
 
Boomslang said:
Maple Leaf Ropes up in Ontario ships to the US for free on orders over $200CAD. With our shitty dollar it's a good buy on some stuff and Sherrill's Silky exclusive doesn't apply to Canadian distributors ;)
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Oh, I totally forgot to mention an another great small business in U.S .

It's a Bartlett Arborist Supply .

I thought this company is huge at first by just a looks of it's websites and catalogs which they sends out & their great products introductions and tips with videos on internet. I'm sure you guys saw it .

But for some reasons when they told me their side of story ? My heart had just melted.
They are indeed small business company & Doing the best of the best they can every day.

Very Great & Courteous customer services that I've got.

I love love love Bartlett .
Business wise and in personally as well.

Boom ... Here I said it .
Mic drop. ;)(y)
 
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Pinhead Squirrel said:
Oh, I totally forgot to mention an another great small business in U.S .

It's a Bartlett Arborist Supply .

I thought this company is huge at first by just a looks of it's websites and catalogs which they sends out & their great products introductions and tips with videos on internet. I'm sure you guys saw it .

But for some reasons when they told me their side of story ? My heart had just melted.
They are indeed small business company & Doing the best of the best they can every day.

Very Great & Courteous customer services that I've got.

I love love love Bartlett .
Business wise and in personally as well.

Boom ... Here I said it .
Mic drop. ;)(y)
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I'm in Detroit and Bartlett is less than 2 hours away. If I order on Sunday it is at my house on Tuesday.
Reach said:
That’s good, I have heard a lot of good about them. Never purchased from them, as Gap Arborist is 11 minutes from my front door, and the owner is a personal friend of mine.

Keep supporting the small companies, they need it!
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Gap always has unique color versions of standard climbing lines too
 
Njdelaney said:
I'm in Detroit and Bartlett is less than 2 hours away. If I order on Sunday it is at my house on Tuesday.

Gap always has unique color versions of standard climbing lines too
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:rolleyes: I think it's because after the pick up by the carrier the package must go to like the origin facility, to the distribution center , then destination facility ., etc .
If you want that to be shipped directly to your house then you must pay kinda hefty price of shipping I think. Sometimes I see deliver special packages but those people are using rideshare service drivers but it still pricey when you compared with USPS or UPS, FedEx and such. When money is not the matter to you then you might want to try that route I think .
 
Pinhead Squirrel said:
Wasn't that guy who owns Alibaba ?
I mean if he is truly preserve it's land " Permanently " as it is then I kinda back him. I want to some land to be green and frer from any human interactions. At least development wise .
Because that means those lands are going to be untouched.
But who knows for sure ?
Tbh , I don't trust it .

in general, I don't like any entities from other countries start claiming ownership of any country's property. Unless the one is going to neutralize then change citizenship to that country and live there as it's country people . Otherwise, I consider it is too aggressive invasive act by foreign entities to my mind. To me it's a clear invasion.
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Likely not Alibaba owner but who knows, layers of LLCs, as @ghostice mentioned, bags of cash waiting to be laundered.

And now for the wrap-up... it really is about the youth and there are a lot of amazing teens and kids out there who can see how screwed up everything is and want to do something about it. I'm really enjoying my opportunities to do tree walks for all ages, and nature and art/music/poetry activities for kids and teens. I can see how much of a difference it makes. The relentless machine feeds on them as they become adults. Some persist and become the leaders we need whether for their own families, locally, regionally or beyond. Many folks in the climber/arb/rec communities can make a difference helping to raise up the new generations with a light in their eyes.
-AJ
 
AdkEric said:
Not trying to shit on Shelter Tree, because they have great customer service, but they were acquired by RBI Corp a few years back weren't they?
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George is still running the show on the ground. Shelter Tree earned it by being a pillar of the southern New England arb community for years. Still a great place to stop by, browse the gear and catch up with other tree professionals. They're setup so you can get on rope and try harnesses etc.

On a selfishly personal note I was miffed when a former Shelter employee got their cat stuck in a tree in a swamp. They had a Shelter associated climber with serious cred take a look and say "Nope, not going in that swamp", then nothing was done for at least a week and a half. Everyone at Shelter knows what I do. I heard about it through my beautifully crazy cat rescue network and contacted the cat owner. On site looking through binoculars I observed the cat hanging like a dishrag over over a crotch in a red maple. "What? No one would go in there? Time to make it happen". Ok, I've spent my life slogging through what passes for swamps in New England, not a big deal at all. Cat was retrieved, mud washes off, gear dries. Next time I'm at Shelter I'll be checking in on that, "Dammit call me when this stuff happens!" ;-)

All true :) Here's the vid, a primer for a challenging cat in a tree rescue. That boy was skinny and weak, stumbling as he walked branches and came close to falling out when he went to the ends trying to keep distance from me. I lie to cat owners constantly during rescues, not really but I put as positive spin on it as I can muster, they are often freaking out watching their cat stumbling around at height. Once the cat's tail goes up straight like a flag pole (shows relaxation) I know I've got them, still... patience gets the cat.


-AJ
 
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Pinhead Squirrel said:
When I got extra stuff that I didn't even order from Sherrill tree and try to speak with senior customer service representative to discuss it's matter the guy over the phone was very kind and considerate, understanding towards me so I like Sherrill tree a lot tbh. It's bit pricey but still I do like them .
just because just a personal connections with it's workers are priceless to me.
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When I’ve called sherrill tree the people I’ve spoke with knew nothing about tree work, or the related equipment.
 
Chris Schultz said:
When I’ve called sherrill tree the people I’ve spoke with knew nothing about tree work, or the related equipment.
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Customer service rep is the one mostly takes the phone calls and our orders I think . Then when you wants to go talk about technical stuff I believe we needs to talk with Tech department ?
Or Are they all customer service representatives who just takes our orders and doesn't know nothing about tree works on related equipment ?
 
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moss said:
George is still running the show on the ground. Shelter Tree earned it by being a pillar of the southern New England arb community for years. Still a great place to stop by, browse the gear and catch up with other tree professionals. They're setup so you can get on rope and try harnesses etc.



On a selfishly personal note I was miffed when a former Shelter employee got their cat stuck in a tree in a swamp. They had a Shelter associated climber with serious cred take a look and say "Nope, not going in that swamp", then nothing was done for at least a week and a half. Everyone at Shelter knows what I do. I heard about it through my beautifully crazy cat rescue network and contacted the cat owner. On site looking through binoculars I observed the cat hanging like a dishrag over over a crotch in a red maple. "What? No one would go in there? Time to make it happen". Ok, I've spent my life slogging through what passes for swamps in New England, not a big deal at all. Cat was retrieved, mud washes off, gear dries. Next time I'm at Shelter I'll be checking in on that, "Dammit call me when this stuff happens!" ;-)



All true  Here's the vid, a primer for a challenging cat in a tree rescue. That boy was skinny and weak, stumbling as he walked branches and came close to falling out when he went to the ends trying to keep distance from me. I lie to cat owners constantly during rescues, not really but I put as positive spin on it as I can muster, they are often freaking out watching their cat stumbling around at height. Once the cat's tail goes up straight like a flag pole (shows relaxation) I know I've got them, still... patience gets the cat.






-AJ
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moss said:
George is still running the show on the ground. Shelter Tree earned it by being a pillar of the southern New England arb community for years. Still a great place to stop by, browse the gear and catch up with other tree professionals. They're setup so you can get on rope and try harnesses etc.
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Good to hear, and a great resource for arbs in the area. Wish I had something like that in my locale.
 
moss said:
George is still running the show on the ground. Shelter Tree earned it by being a pillar of the southern New England arb community for years. Still a great place to stop by, browse the gear and catch up with other tree professionals. They're setup so you can get on rope and try harnesses etc.

On a selfishly personal note I was miffed when a former Shelter employee got their cat stuck in a tree in a swamp. They had a Shelter associated climber with serious cred take a look and say "Nope, not going in that swamp", then nothing was done for at least a week and a half. Everyone at Shelter knows what I do. I heard about it through my beautifully crazy cat rescue network and contacted the cat owner. On site looking through binoculars I observed the cat hanging like a dishrag over over a crotch in a red maple. "What? No one would go in there? Time to make it happen". Ok, I've spent my life slogging through what passes for swamps in New England, not a big deal at all. Cat was retrieved, mud washes off, gear dries. Next time I'm at Shelter I'll be checking in on that, "Dammit call me when this stuff happens!" ;-)

All true :) Here's the vid, a primer for a challenging cat in a tree rescue. That boy was skinny and weak, stumbling as he walked branches and came close to falling out when he went to the ends trying to keep distance from me. I lie to cat owners constantly during rescues, not really but I put as positive spin on it as I can muster, they are often freaking out watching their cat stumbling around at height. Once the cat's tail goes up straight like a flag pole (shows relaxation) I know I've got them, still... patience gets the cat.


-AJ
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That's how Cats evolved into Owls by doing this for millions of years.lol

 
Vicente said:
It's a pretty seasonal item, I'm guessing they presold all their stock already and shipped a while ago (deer season is pretty much over), over producing and having a bunch of left over will just run down the value of next seasons gear.
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This is from an email from Aerohunter that was posted on a hunting forum yesterday.

We are closing our production shop and soon will be closing our doors. It's time for our founder to retire after 38 years. We do have some products available and will be offering them at closeout prices by next week. Check aerohunter.us to watch for announcements.

Thanks,
Sophia
 
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