New Technique???

My Buddy The Tree Whisperer likes to use this technique. He will throw line onto a tree and get a few good unions his line is over, then when he pulls his static line up over the first union ten feet or so he ties a alpine butterfly on the static line and clips his climb line to it with all his beeners and friction hitch and stuff on it an pulls it up to the union. Now he has two legs to accend up but only one leg on the other side coming down. What would you call this??? SRT Ddrt Alpine Accent?
 
Not so new. See these:

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3524&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=70509&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1 (need Micro Mouse for this)

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.p...=true#Post69717


and the middle of this thread:

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.p...=true#Post83046

If the system is simply tied off at the ground it would be a Double Static Ascent.

If the system was set up so that the whole thing could be lowered (in case the climber became incapacitated) it would be a Dynamic Double Static Ascent.
 
I use the technique with the frog ascent for a floating false crotch to work the tree on the way up or undertake aerial rescue (clip a pulley to the butterfly and run DdRT system). You can also just clip the end of your work line to the butterfly and enjoy a third back up from your friction hitch/rocker type device if going straight for the top.

Been practicing with various endless loop configurations to allow only 2xH for access line, as Mark shared in the killer bees thread.

This technique solves security issues by using ascenders on kernmantle rope for one person loads while ascending (their design intention), and knots and DdRT for a floating false crotch and anchoring two persons in aerial rescue. No need to fear the extra weight of the casualty should it be required mid rescue (should you find the casualty has a cut/stuck/short line) because the rescuer isn't belayed off ascenders. Just put a fig 8 decender or meunter hitch under your hitch to help with the increased load.

In a work situation, it also means you can work the tree on the way up anchored off a knot rather than a friction hitch or ascender of a typical FFC. It uses ascent systems for ascent and work positioning systems for work positioning.

If there isn't much branch walking involved, I'll just run a standard Frog and switch to a Gri-gri to work from, then run a RAD set up for short distances between branches, or clip back on the Frog to blast longer distances with ergonomic speed and ease.
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Being more efficient with energy and safety systems certainly makes tree work more enjoyable for me. I'd recommend this approach to anyone.
 
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Sorry Mark, Chisholm. Ill get it right.

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Hahaha! No sweat!
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I call it a Dbld Static-Retievable Ascent

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Hmmmm...I think I like that. Sergio calls it a 'True Double Rope' technique, but thinkng about it, a true double rope technique has each rope anchored seperately. In this case, one is attached to the other.
 
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...endless loop configurations to allow only 2xH for access line, as Mark shared in the killer bees thread.


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I forgot that one. Here it is:

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=55235&page=0&fpart=2&vc=1


L2 if you still have the pics that you mention in the 'Killer Bees' thread, post the pics and I will re-size them. If you can't post the pics because of file size email them to me and I will re-size and post them.

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Hi mahk

Thanks for the offer. I'm currently working on a variation, so I'll see how that goes first. For retrieving SRT training ascents, the access line can run through a false crotch, and be run through a Petzl Tuba with a prusik safety. The good thing about this, is no tree damage from repeated descents, and the Tuba will pass a knotted rope. With a prusik attached, you don't have to worry about tripping over and dropping the line mid descent of trainee
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Otherwise, I think trunk wraps are perfectly OK for an emergency descent method.
 

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