New England Escalator...

JeffGu

Been here much more than a while
Hey, you guys that use this rope... how is it on milking? Would like to order with a sewn eye on both ends, and swap ends each time I use it...
 
Doesn't milk more than a cow ,but it produces . One eye IMO would be better for that line . Unless its milked well then cut n sewn possibly.
 
Thanks much, guys. Want it for access/SRWP. Price is right, but I've never seen the rope or used it. Friend told me it was real lightweight and that he liked it, so thought I'd give a hank of it a shot. I forgot to ask him about the milking, but figured someone on here would know.
 
It's super light, but also very stiff, I didn't care for it much with the rope wrench, you could literally kink it like a steel cable and it will hold its shape, but it's been a couple years since I've been on it...don't think I have ever had a zk2 on it, maybe I'll give it another go, after all I do have 350' that's never been used
 
I just got a length of it. It's my first static rope. My initial thoughts were that it was very light and felt stiff and kind of weird.
I ran it today with a Rope runner on a canopy cinched anchor for a removal of a large black cherry. I loved it. I thought the rope runner and the escalator played very well together.
 
Yeah, I decided not to get the Escalator... seems a bad match with the Wrench. Thinking about Cherry Bomb, now. It's also priced pretty nice.
 
I would not want to work such a static line with a hitch, but I've used the Runner on Escalator for quite some time now. I like the combo, despite the rope being thin in the hand.

There's another thread on this subject, but I feel it makes a difference that the Runner or Bull Dog Bone will glide on the rope under a heavy enough load, giving the climber some built in energy absorbtion.
 
It is my understanding that it is designed only as an access line. It contains aramid fibers and should not be used in any device. Furthermore it has no or very limited dynamic ability to absorb a fall. It's meant to be like a wire. It was designed and created only as a super low stretch access line and should be limited to that specific application. If you want to know the details I suggest you go directly to Lars as I did. I found that dealers will tend to say all kinds of things to make a sale and generally don't really know all the details.
 
It is my understanding that it is designed only as an access line. It contains aramid fibers and should not be used in any device. Furthermore it has no or very limited dynamic ability to absorb a fall. It's meant to be like a wire. It was designed and created only as a super low stretch access line and should be limited to that specific application. If you want to know the details I suggest you go directly to Lars as I did. I found that dealers will tend to say all kinds of things to make a sale and generally don't really know all the details.
Enter the gray area of tree work. I don't know of a rope specifically designed for SRWP in tree care.

All the rope manufacturers are working hard to fit into whatever mold is laid out there for compliance. It's a hard task, and work positioning is still a square peg/round hole kinda thing.

As you say, Bill, a distributor might say what's needed for a sale, or they might really try to offer the most sound advice. Thing is, once the elongation of a rope feels good in single configuration, it will be overly static when doubled, and never meet the EN requirements. Thus, we're all out there making our own judgement calls.

Just for kicks, I'll say again that working on Escalator with a hitch is probably a bad idea. There will be no energy absorption. Evaluate the entire application and go from there. When using Escalator as an anchor leg connected to an energy absorbing working side, I can't see why it would work beyond its limitations.
 
More then energy absorption, my bigger concern with escalator is that it contains aramid fibers and will be self abrasive if run in a device. Or have I been miss informed?
 
That is more of a concern with a rope bridge that sees rubbing back and forth over a short length many many times. My escalator has seen a lot of use and seems very sturdy. Maybe I should send a well used piece to treestuff to see what it breaks at. I love that it is as stiff as a wire. with a runner it still feels like a pillow to jump into.
 

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