New Echo top handle saw

Whoa nathan! That sounds pretty racist. Considering the events that have been happening in texas in the last couple of years, (like the dragging death that was all over the news) I would figure people would be a little more sensitive about their comments!
 
Vote echo vs. stihl for pruning if no objections

It's all in fun, I love echo 300s for pruning (I am the only one on the crew that will use my Ms200) but was not offended at all. Matter of preference, period!!!!! The Echo is more reliable, warms up quicker, lighter, cheaper and smaller, just keep the chain sharp. The disadvantages is lack of power and the off switch gets turned off at the wrong times cause it is right under your finger. Let's take a vote. Assuming Mark does not object. If he does then I did not write this:):) And I hope this does not offend any one else, if so then get over it J/k. I may have offended others with other statements if so I apologize.
 
another advantage of echo is the design of its handle allowing it to be removed from clip w/ one hand using a U bolt on the handle and ladder hook on your saddle. do others this method or other methods of removing saw from harness. this is great for removals when you are in a tight spot or using the other hand
 
so i noticed mark changed his symbol from sub-zero the ninja killer in mortal kombat to a hockey player, an in swartzaneger's movie running man there was a game show killer also named subzero who used a razor hockey stick. any intention there mark?
 
I found a little more info on the 350T at the Echo Australia site. It's power is listed at 1.6kw. I have no idea how a kw relates to hp, but the Stihl site lists the 200T at 1.65kw.
Weight for the Echo is 7.2 lbs and the Stihl is 7.9 lbs. The Echo also lists a FIVE YEAR warranty in Australia. I'd say this saw is definitely a winner! I can't wait till it's available here in the USA.
 
South of the border help racist?? Sorry, south of the Rio Grande river help. If you think being from "south of the border" is derogatory or something negative, I would be more than happy to leave you alone with the crew to explain it to them.

I can't call them Mexicans because some are from Guatemala and Honduras and would consider being called Mexican an insult. South of the border it just a geographic description. Would you prefer an exact parallel??

How racially diverse is your crew? Please tell us!!

Still don't get what giving a geographic location has to do with killing an individual with a logging chain.

Maybe you should get some thicker skin or perhaps a dress....

Brian, why not get an Australian dealer to ship on to you. Then you can be the first kid on the block to have one

Sean, I can get my 020T one handed with a double locking snap on the little ring.
 
it all relates to experience with the equipment. i do like echo climbing saws but with the medium saws i think the sthil 36 pro is the best in the game. i think husky sucks. all of our huskys run great cut great , but the bolts and screws keep falling out of them. new saws and bolts just fall right out. we constantly replace them. even with thread lock - ive taken to retapping the holes and that showed improvement. i do like the husky 372xp for a big saw, but man the bolts wont stay in any of our bigger huskys.
 
I was definitely talking about the tiop-handle saws. Started with a 280E, then the new CS-3*** saws. I've never run their bigger saws, but CHad isn't the first I've heard saying they aren't so great.

Even the small saws are better if you think of them as pruning saws like Squirrel said. For removals, the lack of power can be very frustrating.

keith
 
stihl is a good company that is for sure, but our 026 model(28?dont remeber) is not a good range. our 36 pro and our 44 are awesome. but stihl isnt so good in the cold weather. i've found the husky 372xp runs better in the cold and is light enough to use as a large or medium range saw...and this is all assuming i have not wanted to throw this husky across a lawn because the bolts fell out during a cut. the sthil 066 has gotten me through many a large trunk, but where the 066 is good you may as well get the 088 and have all the butt kicking power you need. an 088 with a long bar should kill just about anything in a homeowner's yard on the southern east coast. i used the 088 in south carolina a few times to work some huge live oak trunks and wish my employer here in va. would buy one to work some of these red oaks we kill. as for the smaller saws we have the stihl o20 and the husky equvalent. if my salesman would buy me an echo top saw i would use it everytime for prunning, but like many here, my man hates the echo.
 
Nathan, I don't want to get drug into a huge argument over this, but I still think you're wrong. In order to answer your question, Yes I am actually part of a very racially diverse crew, but we all use the same chainsaws. we do not have stihls for the white climbers and echos for everyone else. However, I would like to clarifymy initial statement. My problem is not with being from south of the border (half of my family is from south of the US border)my problem is that you intially put down echo chainsaws, then went on to say that you still use echo chainsaws for your "south of the border help". regardless of whether you meant it or not, it had a way of sounding like, "Echoes aren't good enough for me , but they're good enough for my Latin American help", and that could be equated with saying in essence that you are simply better than Latinos. I'm not calling you a racist Nathan, I'm sure you're probably an all right guy, but what you said was racially loaded, and could be offensive to a lot of people.
PS. years of climbing has made at least the skin on my hands pretty thick, and I don't wear a dress.
 
My apologies if I was pissy before. I know I can run my mouth pretty reckless.

Yes, you have brought it to my attention that I was/am using a stereotype. The guys I work with are hard workers and hard on equipment. Echo climbing saws are not the best but they are a good bang for the buck. Reguardless of whether the help is white or hispanic, I only spend the money for a stihl when it comes to my personal climbing saw. Almost all of my help is hispanic. Great workers, good individuals and I really don't want to sound demeaning in any way.

Now I am here in Germany networking for a job where I am the immigrant labor.
 
Re: Nathan...

I know Nathan pretty well and have never known him to be racist. I even know who he is speaking of and can vouch that they are hard on equipment because at least two of them subbed regularly for me at one time.
 
Re: Nathan...

when i think of a stihl chainsaw the first words that come to mind are reliable, powerful, and long-lasting. I have heard countless stories of the 10 yr old 20T still firing up and doing the job. i have an 031av from '67 and an US Forestry issued 041av from '72 still running and believe it or not still can get parts for. the point being echo's might be good for a little while if well maintained, I've had one for 5 yrs, but cant compare to the quality of the professional line on stihl...ps since purchasing the 200ms my echo has seen very little aloft action.
 
Re: Nathan...

At first I loved my new Ms200, and even the second one until they both broke and were very expensive to fix so I went back to the echo for less than half the price
 
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