New device from ISC
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Steve Connally
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With the Apex would be stationary. I asked him about it and he said it was for stationary or moving rope systems. Just that he had been using it for SRS more than MRS. I haven't seen enough of it to tell how much zigzag is in the design. Sure looks like it from the little snipped though. Where did you see the patent applied for?
ATH
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Well, that does look like a midline attachable zigzag.... Which kind of sounds like the Holy Grail!
It's crazy how many new devices have come out within the last year or two.
It's crazy how many new devices have come out within the last year or two.
Matias
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That does look pretty well thought out. I am excited to see how it pans out
ATH
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Yeah ...it looked like he just yanked it, and I thought "oh heck no". But them on that little clip showing it put it back in, looks like it had some kind of locking mechanism. If it just comes out with force, I've certainly become a lot less interested!
Burrapeg
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Maybe they will ultimately come out with a heavy duty, non-swivel version like we saw with the second generation ZZ's.
Matias
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It looks like it does just slide on and off of that bar, which looks like it has a groove that locks into a cut out in the other side plate. You're putting a lot of faith into the locking mechanisms staying together rather than a solid piece not breaking
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SoftBankHawks
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A lot of care and attention has gone into the whole devices function over a range of system ideas, the swivel included. The lower sprung cam locks into it while in suspension. There is also a rubber o-ring inside the swivel head that keeps it from moving unintentionally when changing the device from rope to rope. It takes a positive action to remove it from the main body. Very beautiful design, and functional.
$430 get ya a less safe (fuck that swivel setup) ZigZag, and those who chose to run it with an Apex are gonna be in over $600. This why I love folks like Gordon (BDB) and Mr. Mumford. They understand that what the average working tree-man wants is a safe, highly effective, reliable tool for a reasonable price. You can keep your gadgetry and shiny colors. Thank you very much....
SoftBankHawks
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Fair point Rico.
I've been a fan of the Uni since 2007. It's been really interesting to have been on the design journey with ISC for the Reflex Mechanical Hitch and I stand by it as a bombproof practical device for real tree men and women.
There is a bunch of cool stuff about it.
One thing I'll say is that I've never experienced a climbing device so good at moving through pine sap.
Can this device be run SRT without an apex/wrench/chicane on top?
SoftBankHawks
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Yes.
Thanks. And thank for chiming in here. I for one take comfort in knowing you had a hand in its design.
SoftBankHawks
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It has three points of friction.
(1) Upper links, which have an (2) extended section, what I call an inverted rope wrench and a (3) rotating sheave that pushes against a static cam.
It self regulates friction. I have used it in ropes down to 9mm, with no slippage while retaining a smooth descent function.
It may look over designed but I'm telling you the function is simplicity itself.
(1) Upper links, which have an (2) extended section, what I call an inverted rope wrench and a (3) rotating sheave that pushes against a static cam.
It self regulates friction. I have used it in ropes down to 9mm, with no slippage while retaining a smooth descent function.
It may look over designed but I'm telling you the function is simplicity itself.
SoftBankHawks
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That's kind of you.
Bobs yeruncle post 1st pic patent pending, my misspoke. Indeed there's a rope pinch inside the body which to quick thought appears to get some disengagement/unloading in the DRT configuration, I guess to change friction levels like how the other new device blackbird locks out the bird via the DRT connection biner to drop friction level.
zigzag chicanery has been out-chicaneried
zigzag chicanery has been out-chicaneried
SoftBankHawks
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All three points retain the same function wether in MRS or SRS. they are able to regulate the amount of friction rather than moving completely in/out of function.Bobs yeruncle post 1st pic patent pending, my misspoke. Indeed there's a rope pinch inside the body which to quick thought appears to get some disengagement/unloading in the DRT configuration, I guess to change friction levels like how the other new device blackbird locks out the bird via the DRT connection biner to drop friction level.
zigzag chicanery has been out-chicaneried
It is nothing like the Blackbird
In terms of creating friction I'd say it has a refined design which takes cues from ZigZag, Wrench and Hitch Hiker.
ATH
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Is there any reason, then, to put something over it for more friction in SRS?
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