My Near Death Video-- My pride is my Shame

DanielSon

DanielSon

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Dear Tree Buzzers,

19 months ago, I logged into tree buzz like a hot shot that I thought I was. Within 2-3 posts I quickly learned that I wasn’t quite as much of a hot shot as I thought.

So I had posted a video at the time of me taking our a huge top thinking that I was going to impress someone here.

Well... If anyone was impressed, they were just as ignorant to proper rigging and safety standards as I was at the time.

So I quickly ripped the video down and was really too embarrassed to show it in fear that if my competition saw it, they may use it against me on estimates.

Well, my pride is my shame. If I can help a young climber by showing him what NOT to do and it saves his life, I want to do that, even if it may cost a job or two.

So I apologize to the room for focusing on myself rather that sharing what hopefully will help keep someone safe.

A more humble

Danielson

Here is the video

the BIG version is http://www.werentbeachhouses.com/bigtop.avi

and the smaller version is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRILH4mNjIo
 
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Yes, you set your chokers too low and you made your cut too high. I've been forced to do almost the same thing except I anticipated the flip and had a tagline to stop it.

Live and learn, brother. You won't do that again, I 'spect.


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I remember that,

I wouldn't be embarressed about the incident itself, but I would be questioning my judgement if I used Jane's Addiction 'Ocean Size' as a soundtrack to a treework video.

Jane's Addiction always struck me as the type of people who'd look down their noses at treeworkers like we were some kind of lowlife peasants.

You should have used Bob Dylan
 
Thanks for reposting that, Mike. I remember the thread well.

I had commented that the slings should have been marled, and spread out over a good distance, which allows for a high tie, and lower, where the wood is plenty large to be assured it won't break. If breakage occurs above, the marls will hold everything together.
 
Or Hendrix!
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As if music selection has anything to with the topic...

Daniel: Your humility about the incident now is admirable. I think that is something I am learning as the years go by in this industry. It is important to be humble at all times. Because this is a character trait which will keep you alive.
 
Scary stuff when the load flips like that. Were you set up to descend away from the chaos? I think its cool as hell of you to put it back up. Tree work can be so very humbling.


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I remember that,

I wouldn't be embarressed about the incident itself, but I would be questioning my judgement if I used Jane's Addiction 'Ocean Size' as a soundtrack to a treework video.

Jane's Addiction always struck me as the type of people who'd look down their noses at treeworkers like we were some kind of lowlife peasants.

You should have used Bob Dylan

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I love ya Grover but Ocean size is a rockin tune and was obviously written so we could use it for tree vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvg1sCZKT88

peace
 
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Were you set up to descend away from the chaos?
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There was a 12-14 inch in diameter stub that stuck out about 3-4 feet toward the house.

I had my cable flip line choked to it and my ascender set on my line.

the idea being if the load sliped I could/would jump under the nub and be "safe".

I have to laugh just a bit becaus 18 months ago I would have really defended that line of reasnoning.
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Scary stuff when the load flips like that. Were you set up to descend away from the chaos? I think its cool as hell of you to put it back up. Tree work can be so very humbling.


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I remember that,

I wouldn't be embarressed about the incident itself, but I would be questioning my judgement if I used Jane's Addiction 'Ocean Size' as a soundtrack to a treework video.

Jane's Addiction always struck me as the type of people who'd look down their noses at treeworkers like we were some kind of lowlife peasants.

You should have used Bob Dylan

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I love ya Grover but Ocean size is a rockin tune and was obviously written so we could use it for tree vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvg1sCZKT88

peace

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Look, if your gonna use Janes Addiction in your treework vid, the rule is- dont use anything from 'Nothing's Shocking' Their sound hadn't really matured into the earthy gravitas we hear on 'Ritual De Lo Habitual'. But dont use 'Jane Says' or 'Been caught Stealing'

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iAuFgpJ5FxY

For Dylan in Danielson's vid I was thinking ' Knocking on heavens door' or 'A hard Rain's gonna Fall'
 
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It is important to be humble at all times. Because this is a character trait which will keep you alive.

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Wow, well said and so true.
 
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I don't think anyone really learns from a tree flipping until it happens to them. 
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word......been there done that.....

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We all learn from our mistakes I would not stress it. You did not get hurt that is the most important thing.
 
Don't be so hard on yourself Danielson.

It happened to me a couple of times in my teens.

At least the crane didn't go over!

I have picked up on your posts before, where you know people who have died in the trade, and sensed you've got it coming. I used to feel like that after about 4 years of freeclimbing to the top of any tree it was possible to (because that was how I was taught to do it), and taking on rigging jobs with rudimentary equipment. You learn alot about the nuts and bolts of health and safety doing it that way, but you get the feeling you've outstayed your welcome with Lady Luck, and the reaper has an ominous presence.

Then I broadend my horizons and saw how other climbers worked with routine safety. I just couldn't understand how anyone could make it pay by climbing a tree tied in all the time...
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So that became my focus - finding safer and more efficient ways of doing the job. Its a constant flux, with plenty of pitfalls. If we don't know anyone with great experience to guide us in the field, we have TreeBuzz; a safe haven of experienced pros with sensible advice.

Speaking of which - where the hell is Mr Chisholm these days???

Macho Peer pressure accounts for a lot of accidents. Some people are just not worth being around in a hazardous environment, for unnecessarily risky things they do or encourage. Tree work shouldn't be a fix for adrenaline junkies.

The knack is, recognising such people, near misses and learning from accidents to figure ways to avoid them in future. This thread shows you're there already.

Take care
Laz
 
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