my invention

Everytime I think of a great idea my wife always says "they already have that" First off who are "they" and secondly did you notice I spelled wife in lower case...
 
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I came up with an invention and was wondering how to go about getting it seen by some one that could help put it into production?

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Why not post a pic and explanation of it here at Treebuzz? and all of us could peer review it?

If it was pointless we'd be able to tell you and stop you wasting your time and money on something that will never be of any use to anyone.

On the otherhand If its good, we'd tell you. Who cares about Patents and all that BS, life's too short, so you invent something, whats wrong with just sharing the idea, if someone copies it then they're worthless and everyone will know they copied your idea, we'll all know it, we'll tell everyone in the industry about the fact that someone ripped off your idea, their name will be muck in the worldwide arboricultural industry.
 
I have never before seen a more blatant attempt at extracting blueprints of someone's ideas for personal gain in my life. You should be ashamed, Grover. So what's the idea? C'mon man. We won't tell anyone.
 
Coming up with the idea is the easy part. The rest is just hard work and stress.

I just had an idea this morning. Arborists offering insurance to arborists and tree owners. Insurance is the most profitable industry globally, why not get a piece. Current insurance seems to fall short for protecting tree owners because they need our expertise. And how many tree companys are paying for policies with no intention of ever making a claim. Hmmm.
 
If you have 2 grand on hand you can get the patent process started.
http://www.uspto.gov/
I must warn you
Its not for the faint of heart.

I agree with Whiz about Grovers intentions btw.
I hear hes already in development of Jomocos Biscuit catching system, along with my Steen Brush Cart.
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i heard that you can explain the idea in detail then mail it to yourself. don't open the letter. now when you are going through the patent process or whatever and the big wigs steal your idea you have a sealed dated piece of evidence that you had it first. I have now Idea if that is legit or not the guy who told me was hyper aware of the THEM you speak of
 
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I just had an idea this morning. Arborists offering insurance to arborists and tree owners. Insurance is the most profitable industry globally, why not get a piece. Current insurance seems to fall short for protecting tree owners because they need our expertice. And how many tree companys are paying for policies with no intention of ever making a claim. Hmmm.

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Such things were called mutual aid societies in the past. In fact they are the origins of today's insurance companies. Some companies today are still considered Mutual insurance companies.

Advantage? less fraud as we are all paying attention to what the others do because we are all sharing the risk and we are all more likely to tell the scammer to take a hike.

Less loss because, again, we are all sharing the risk and we are all being more careful.

Something like this could work...anyone interested in exploring it further?
 
We have a group (ISA) that tries hard but hasn't effected my bottom line yet. The insurance model has been proven. If the research is done by say the tree fund it wouldn't be hard to come up with venture capitalists who would like to make more money and make it happen. Just send some money my way so I can keep on doing tree work.
 
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i heard that you can explain the idea in detail then mail it to yourself. don't open the letter.

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Yep. They are a form of "time seals." I've got a couple. But, I think you must show progress towards getting a patent and productions.

In other words, we can just think of an idea, create a "time seal" on it, and cash in on some one's efforts later.

But, I'm no pro with the matter...
 
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We have a group (ISA) that tries hard but hasn't effected my bottom line yet. The insurance model has been proven. If the research is done by say the tree fund it wouldn't be hard to come up with venture capitalists who would like to make more money and make it happen. Just send some money my way so I can keep on doing tree work.

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Who do I make the check out to?
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Yep. They are a form of "time seals." I've got a couple. But, I think you must show progress towards getting a patent and productions.

In other words, we can just think of an idea, create a "time seal" on it, and cash in on some one's efforts later.

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That is correct. I don't recall the exact constraints but there is a time limit. After that passes you are considered to have abandoned it.
 
A provisional patent is $110. http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/types/provapp.jsp

it allows you to say patent pending.


Send in a check and all the info you have on the product. it gives you a year to get things started. You can share with people in the meantime. You have to apply with in that year or its all void. that will cost you 4000 at least just to get started. You continue saying patent pending throughout the application procces which could take years.

I think grover is right though. putting it on the buzz is protection in itself. You basically want to get it recorded unequivocally that it is your idea. A patent from what I understand is only as good as the money you have to defend it. Building a reputation and a name attached to your idea is more important and should work in a tightknit community such as our own. Few arborists dont have access to the internet anymore. It is a different story if your product is for the general masses.
 
A patent is only as good as the borders from which it was invented.

The ring/ring false crotch was invented in France but patented in the US by someone else. The US patent was defended successfully as 'original' even though the idea wasn't.

Be careful about sharing ideas with anyone. There are people who could capitalize on your idea and leave you with nothing.
 
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The ring/ring false crotch was invented in France but patented in the US by someone else. The US patent was defended successfully as 'original' even though the idea wasn't.



Any simple way to go online and find out who threw a patent on the ring and ring? I'd kind of like to make sure that none of my hard earned money goes toward them, or to whoever is marketing their patented item.
 
I wonder thougth if things like that are as possible now with the internet. way back in the 1990's, Europe and the United States were very isolated from each other. Now there is substantial communication which did not exist back then.
 

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