Multiple leadered trees with no central tie in?

Re: Multiple leadered trees with no central tie in

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Lasst bit of advice might seem like it has nothing to do with climbing, but it really does.... Put a lot of $$$$ on jobs like that.... keeps you motivated and keeps your spirits high even when you are physically exhausted... nothing more demoralising than underbidding a really tough job... That makes it even harder as the mind keeps getting distracted about the $$$$

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Just thought that should be repeated....
 
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Thanks for the feedback buzzers! I definetly realize that setting several ropes from the ground would be very helpful. This tree was shaped like a salad bowl. Started from the ground and then spread. There was prob. 40-50 feet between leaders. The leads didnt have much for limbwalking- they were really weighted heavily towards the tips. So when ascended the first lead using a pantin, then tried to traverse over to the second lead (which was where some serious flopping came into play), upon reaching the secind lead, I used a throwline and got an anchor point. But the problem was that the lead was at about 45 degrees, and my rope angle from the other lead was terrifyingly horizontal. so I was leaning way back trying to ascend (using the V.T) up the lead, while trying not to flop to either side. My other tie in was essentially useless in preventing the flop.
I guess thats my question, how do I minimize the side to side flop while ascending up a really angled stem? The obvious answer is to go to ground then ascend another rope. But I felt like I was already up in the air, so why go to the ground?
thanks
 
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oh yeah, I have been working hourly. These people trust me enough to not make me bid.
Someone with a bucket truck could have done in about 20 minutes what it took me a couple of hours to do. I really want to get better at working these sorts of trees, so I would never say no to the opportunity.
 
Multiple TIPs, a polesaw and planning make trees like that easier. I get a lot of willow oaks configured like that, I think they're kinda fun... always some swinging involved.

The polesaw is useful for cuts but even more so for retrieving the line after you throw a new TIP.
 
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ohh thank you ,,, i was looseing it there for a hour,, i went into crane use,, it was k boom this and k boom that,,, really i will try to knot make that mistake again ,,,,,my k boom has a remote control, really, will your k boom call a carpenter when it fails over a roof?
 
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Cashmoney, what in the *@!! are you talking about? Do you have any input climbing trees with multiple leaders?
 
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I really want to check out the New tribe grapple hook that Moss posted a few vids about a while back. There are those trees I could see it working well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZRvYqMAVMw

http://www.newtribe.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=423

I absolutely hate using a pole saw if I don't have to. So a throwline pouch and that hook is my alternatives for a polesaw all day long. Even if you get rid of it after every tie in your looking at a good 5-6 times pulling it back up and getting it out of the tree.
 
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let us know how it goes it looks like you'd have carry alot of extra line with that
 
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Cashmoney, what in the *@!! are you talking about? Do you have any input climbing trees with multiple leaders?

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He's always like that.


Jman,
get yer polesaw and go climbing, it's killer exercise, especially good for core tension.
 
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I'll get over to that other lead just by other means. I will use a polesaw if I have to but I try not too.
 
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Jman,
get yer polesaw and go climbing, it's killer exercise, especially good for core tension.

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Ha! Good call, there's always two sides to every issue.
 
What I somtimes try to do in big silvers or willows instead of having long lines angles and multiple ropes i get aas high as i can on the leader you are working on with just one climbing line. I'm all for using friction saver of what ever kind you choose. TIP as high as you can and treat it as the only spar there prune it out in small pieces. You may spend some time on rope management moving your FS down then top it out. I know it's prefered to not tie, climb, and rig on the same section if you don't have to and you may want to take smaller pieces but it keeps it straight forward for me. I've done trees where I had to retie into each stem. Might get annoying pulling all the rope but safe and smooth is worth the hasle to me. Or like mentioned earlier if you have enough climbing line set each one with your trusty thow line and just retie when you get there. Again a bit more work but it has worked for me. Practice is the main thing good luck and have fun.

Kevin
 
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