micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage...

Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

With the martin you don't need to have a pulley underneath it as the half hitch at the bottom will advance the hitch. Good hitch to know when in a jam and need a second tie in or without a pulley.
 
Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

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I've used several of the eye-to-eye hitches over the past few years. I would get frustated with one and move on to another. In some cases going back to a Blake's. Not until the Hitch Climber came around have I felt so confident in these hitches. The Michoacon has been my knot of choice for the past few months now. I may not stray away from this one any time soon...

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Just in my initial testing with this hitch and the HC pulley, I found personally I'm going to be more apt to go with 5 turns on top, possibly 6 if I can fit it. Not so much as a comfort or friction issue, but mainly to keep the legs of the hitch as short as possible, to eliminate as much "slack" between the bottom of the hitch and the top of the pulley as possible. Trying to get every inch out of my pulls as possible!
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Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

Jeff, you can always go for a different length prussik, too (more gear, yo!)... I use a V.T. and have settled on an HRC spliced eye to eye prussik, the longest one available at Shelter (30"?), which is absolutely perfect for the V.T, which is four wraps + 3 more wraps with both ends. I am liking the HRC... I had a tenex prussik before this one, and I found it to be somewhat squishy and slippery compared to the HRC. Here's a link, although I would recommend that you support George at Shelter when and if possible:

https://www.knotandrope.com/catalog.php?r=view&prod_id=430

-Tom

(PS - The slack you refer to between knot, pulley and bridge is sometimes called 'sit back.')
 
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I'd actually like to go with an even shorter prussik. I could stand to lose probably 2-3" off each leg of the hitch if I went with the 4 wrap michochoan, and keep the pulley very close to the hitch. I initially saw this setup with an ICE eye to eye, so gave that a shot. I like the action of the knot. Unloads incredibly easily, and I can drop right back down on the knot and have it grab immmediately.

I've also got a tenex e2e that I've used a few times with the micropulley, which also worked well. I'll end up trying them both and see if I can find any advantage to either.

I'll mention it to the guys at work, we do alot of our ordering through Shelter, so I might suggest they go there.

Also experimented roughly with the floating bridge setup, which has convinced me that I will very soon be ordering an eye to eye spliced climbing line. That is just too slick for words. Put the knot saddle side for easy letting out of line/limb walking, and with 2 seconds of work, put the knot 3 feet out and have some effortless ascending via hip-thrust! I found out hanging from the rafters of the shop to not let the knot out TOO far while your on the ground, otherwise you cant let yourself back down! haha
 
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"I found out hanging from the rafters of the shop to not let the knot out TOO far while your on the ground, otherwise you cant let yourself back down! haha"

Yeah... Your extension needs to be just right. For me, a 12" e2e, or 24" websling, doubled, plus the carabiner (about 4") is just enough. Some folks use a little tether to reach the knot if they want the extra pull.

-Tom
 
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I actually used the "floating bridge" setup as I found in this thread posted by Gypsy Climber:
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=164535&an=0&page=0#164535

http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/images/upload/164575-FloatingBridge-2.jpg

Worked out fantastic. Keeps the "bridge" completely variable. I'll probably try this out for awhile, until I possibly find something that works better for me.

Kudos to treebuzz! I would have missed out on all this stuff had it not been for browsing the board!
 
Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

This is an old thread. The original problem was that my micromouse pulley wasn't working properly, the hitch kept getting screwed up. So I never really used it.

I just tried out this though and it seems to work fine:
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I'm sure it's been tried before. I'm just wondering if girth hitching the webbing tether to the eye is ok? I'm not sure if that bend ratio and hard edges are such a good idea.

Thanks.
 
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Well, robinia, if done properly maybe it's not as much of a problem as it might appear. Here's a link to a pic of one of On Rope 1's QAS. I tried pasting the pic in here and it was just huge.

http://www.onrope1.com/store/images/products/f0401.jpg

Anyway, notice they do connect rope directly to an ascender. There are differences: the ascender ist thicker, but then the pulley you show, has two plates making it pretty thick too. They are using probably 9mm PMI EzBend rope and I'm not sure what you're using but it's a similar thing - protect it with a piece of 1" tubular webbing as shown in their pic.

Another difference is the QAS supports the full load, whereas in your pic, the connection to the pulley only supports half your weight.

I'm NOT saying your setup is safe, but at the same time it may not be unsafe either. Lot's of use and time would be the only way to know for sure. You should be able to see if you are getting wear on the cordage/webbing.
 
Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

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This is an old thread. The original problem was that my micromouse pulley wasn't working properly, the hitch kept getting screwed up. So I never really used it.

I just tried out this though and it seems to work fine:
IMG_0573copy.jpg

I'm sure it's been tried before. I'm just wondering if girth hitching the webbing tether to the eye is ok? I'm not sure if that bend ratio and hard edges are such a good idea.

Thanks.

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That looks sketchy to me. Why not just use the hitch climber? Also, I have always had issues with the nuts on the pulley of the CMI starting to chaff the tails of my hitch cord after repeatedly bumping into them.

Your set up just adds one more thing in the system that can fail.
 
Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

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That looks sketchy to me. Why not just use the hitch climber? Also, I have always had issues with the nuts on the pulley of the CMI starting to chaff the tails of my hitch cord after repeatedly bumping into them.

Your set up just adds one more thing in the system that can fail.

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I use a hitchclimber at work, this would be for my home/rec gear. Mostly I'm just trying to find a use for this 2 eye pulley that sits around gathering dust, rather than buying another hitchclimber.

I've had the same problems and concerns with the nuts, and I did say I had my own reservations with the setup. Anyway now I'm even more sure I don't like it.

Anyone know a good alternate use for this pulley? Maybe speedlining two connections at the same time?
 
Re: micro mouse VS. hitchclimber: hitch slippage..

I bought a micro mouse before I got the hitch-climber as well, now I use the micro-m when i need to have a second tie in, whether with a seperarte line or with the tail of my primary line. that way everything fits in with the third hole that i have available on my hithclimber. all of this is somewhat old news now that i have a spiderjack, but that is a different thread entirely. spiderjack is king!! i think of where i want to be and i'm there. no more tight hitch problems.
 
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