Treetopflyer
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Definitely part of the problem.
Man vs. Earth
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Did you read the article you linked? I find it interesting that this is used as an anti meat example. What about the bun? Does it say the wheat is terrible?
When you read something that starts with "new research has found" dig a little and find out where the funding for that research came from. There are pros and cons to almost anything and experiments can be set up to prove either side. Following the money to its origin can be quite enlightening.
If red meat is so bad, how do all the world's predators maintain such extraordinary physical condition?
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Case in point: is methane bad? Or is it a piece of the puzzle?
"Methanogens are obligate anaerobes that cannot grow in the presence of oxygen. They use CO2 as the final electron acceptor and Hydrogen as a source of electrons. The reduction of CO2 produces methane gas as a byproduct of cellular metabolism. Methanogens are abundant in swamps and sludge water. They play an important role in biomass degradation and CO2 consumption." (From the link below.)
https://biology.mit.edu/sites/default/files/Methane Production from Food Waste.pdf
Naturally-produced methane accounts for approximately 6.5 times that which is produced by human-related activities. Over 70% of this is produced from our precious and protected wetlands.
Where I am going with this is methane is not inherently bad. But it is a good way of distracting us from what is.
"Methanogens are obligate anaerobes that cannot grow in the presence of oxygen. They use CO2 as the final electron acceptor and Hydrogen as a source of electrons. The reduction of CO2 produces methane gas as a byproduct of cellular metabolism. Methanogens are abundant in swamps and sludge water. They play an important role in biomass degradation and CO2 consumption." (From the link below.)
https://biology.mit.edu/sites/default/files/Methane Production from Food Waste.pdf
Naturally-produced methane accounts for approximately 6.5 times that which is produced by human-related activities. Over 70% of this is produced from our precious and protected wetlands.
Where I am going with this is methane is not inherently bad. But it is a good way of distracting us from what is.
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Treetopflyer
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Thank you for this post. It's rewarding for me that someone is willing to post helpfully and the puzzle can come together.. I love red meat by the way. It's a weakness of mine...all the glory of awesome food that is.. Everything in moderation I suppose.
TreeCo
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I hardly eat any red meat unless you count venison.
Yeah, it's a conundrum all righty.
Here is an excerpt of Mr. Murphy's take on it:
"...it is the nature of this subject that substantive answers are never possible nor welcome. When dealing with the “airy subtleties” of the new Faith, we must settle for ignorance, ...for the idea that the vastly imperfect governments of this world, who between them cannot guarantee anything six months out, can speak with serene confidence on the Whole Atmosphere of our Great Dynamic Planet nearly 100 years from now"
Treetopflyer
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Whos Mr. Murphy? I'm gonna have to digest this post , before I think.. I know what the hell it really means. I think I know something quite often only to be left thinking I know nothing more than I did before or the more I know the less I understand. Talk about a conundrum. Am I going backwards with time?
No, you're going forward. All of these people are full of it. No one knows!!!
Stihlmadd
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before you all get too excited I think you should watch what this man has to say..
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Ok got two minutes in, but here goes nothing.
Get your engines running, turn the heat up. Fly to the other side of the earth and back because next time you'll be skating. Keep on rocking in the free world. Got fuel to burn, got loads to drive. Go out and start your car. Let it idle all night.
Maybe this ice age optimist should sit in the garage with the car running until he's high enough to realize that it's more than a question of warming. It's a question of resources. It's more than our extinction, it's the accelerated extinction of thousands of other species that has ALREADY happened directly and indirectly by the hands of man.
But hey I've joked with friends before too. If we're lucky we have a one a million chance of lining our f&$@ up up with an ice age. What a joke. This guy missed finite class
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Get your engines running, turn the heat up. Fly to the other side of the earth and back because next time you'll be skating. Keep on rocking in the free world. Got fuel to burn, got loads to drive. Go out and start your car. Let it idle all night.
Maybe this ice age optimist should sit in the garage with the car running until he's high enough to realize that it's more than a question of warming. It's a question of resources. It's more than our extinction, it's the accelerated extinction of thousands of other species that has ALREADY happened directly and indirectly by the hands of man.
But hey I've joked with friends before too. If we're lucky we have a one a million chance of lining our f&$@ up up with an ice age. What a joke. This guy missed finite class
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Ahh... the self-proclaimed "climate scientist" with a MA in business administration (and no legitimate science or climatology background) who also has done absolutely no peer reviewed research... but does have a quite elaborate scam artist system of bleeding money out of the gullible.... John Casey. A non-scientist who, with his amazing powers of unscientific reasoning, has deduced that the sun has gone into hibernation, like a pregnant polar bear, and for the right price he'll explain it all in detail. The details, of course, read like the ramblings of a lunatic, but I'm sure he's just vastly more intelligent than the 11,000+ published, peer reviewed climatology scientists with actual science degrees who hold a considerably different opinion. After all, it's really all an obvious conspiracy because.... because... well, because John Casey says it is.
Going to have to pass on this one, Ben. Sorry, but this guy is about as credible as that last pair of assclowns from Georgia with the bigfoot in a freezer nonsense.
Going to have to pass on this one, Ben. Sorry, but this guy is about as credible as that last pair of assclowns from Georgia with the bigfoot in a freezer nonsense.
Stihlmadd
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no problems it is just about stimulating a debate not automatically accepting the status quo or the official line.
climate change as a whole is a emotional subject to many people and I am confident that there are many operators out there profiting from the situation.
and I do like going the devils advocate to see what stirs from the bottom of the pot.
climate change as a whole is a emotional subject to many people and I am confident that there are many operators out there profiting from the situation.
and I do like going the devils advocate to see what stirs from the bottom of the pot.
JeffGu
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It's one of the things I like about you, my friend. Now, I would never do that, of course. I lack the necessary dedication.
interesting viewpoint, (if you don't mind seeing scads of polysyllabic words you've probably never encountered before):
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...ovement-has-been-hijacked-by-climate-radicals
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-c...ovement-has-been-hijacked-by-climate-radicals
This is about the changing thats needs to happen. It is agriculture based but as tree guys there is plenty that you will understand. A novel thought, to work with the world, instead of against it.
Man vs earth is about changing what and how we do things.
Man vs earth is about changing what and how we do things.
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Great little write up.
JeffGu
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Mt. St. Helens CO2 output during its eruption cycle was 650 metric tons per day.
During that same period, CO2 emissions from human activity was over 20 gigatons per day.
Not even close.
If you include all natural CO2 emissions, they are fairly close to equal.
If you stab someone and seriously hurt them, it is unlikely that stabbing them again will have no effect. The most probable scenario would be that they will die sooner.
Treetopflyer
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I love this post, Your contributions to this thread have been the driving force of how I hoped it would go. I watched a good portion of the video, then daddy duty interrupted. I'm going to hopefully get a chance to finish it today.
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