Large Oak Removal

yeah chris I wore the treeflex the whole job. Honestly I've been wearing it everyday. The treemotion is getting jealous. We got paid the same amount we always get paid. My boss is the one that made out like a bandit. We finished the jobs a couple of days ahead of scedule. That man got paid.

Thanks for the compliments all. Chris your right about being rough on the body. I cramped up bad the second day to a point that I had to eat banannas in the tree
 
Nice job, lotta hard work!

Is that a huge pile of stump mulch in the foreground of the neighbor's house? If so, did that all have to go outta there by hand too?

Can you tell us if that job was by the hour or set price?? If they were gonna do some landscaping after you left, I'm surprised it wouldn't be acceptable to make a few divots that could be landscaped later, in exchange for getting it done quicker/cheaper by bombing some pcs.

Again, nice work. Yeah its never fun when you work hard and then step back and take a look and it hardly looks like you've started!!

PS, no PPE?
 
the house shown was actually smaller but then they tore it down to build that monster. Its a real wealthy town. We got 12g for just that tree. We also did 6 20ft pines along the back so that he can grind the stumps and
have the arborvities planted. Seemed like a waste of money to me. The pines weren't thick enough for his liking.
 
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Nice job, lotta hard work!

Is that a huge pile of stump mulch in the foreground of the neighbor's house? If so, did that all have to go outta there by hand too?

Can you tell us if that job was by the hour or set price?? If they were gonna do some landscaping after you left, I'm surprised it wouldn't be acceptable to make a few divots that could be landscaped later, in exchange for getting it done quicker/cheaper by bombing some pcs.

Again, nice work. Yeah its never fun when you work hard and then step back and take a look and it hardly looks like you've started!!

PS, no PPE?

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No ppe? What you talkin about willis? As far as the price goes. We gave a solid price from the get go. We told him we would try to finish within 6 days. If it took longer then we would charge him 1400 per additional day. I knew about the job a month a head of time and practiced certain rigging situations that I wasnt to comfortable with before then. My whole crew stepped up and fine tuned there game. We had it in our heads to get it done in 4 days. This was the super bowl of trees for us, a time to show my boss just how damn good we were. I'm honestly very proud of my guys stepping up the way they did. We moved seamlessly.

We did have to cart out the stump mulch and the lawn may get chewed up by them getting the trees in but I didn't want that on my docket. I was told the stipulations and stayed within those perameters
 
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No ppe? What you talkin about willis?

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Sorry, I meant hardhat on you the climber.

Way to go on the super bowl of trees thing, your boss is lucky to have a crew like you guys, I would say.
 
Hey there Familytree, nice job. Just wondering what the block 2 feet above the grcs was supposed to be doing? At the risk of sounding like a dick I would say it is doing nothing due to the fact that it has a foot of tail so can move around anywhere instead of acting as a redirect and keeping the rope feeding in at 90degrees to bollard. I believe that tree work is won and lost with the details. As you (or your crew) had it set up the rope angle was still pulling the grcs away from the trunk so when you drop the mother load on it the strap stretched and the grcs came away from the tree so was pulled up tree which in all reality could have resulted in death of both climber and ground guy. To avoid this the redirect should be further up tree and tight to trunk and some lag bolts used to stop slipping. All these new tools are cool but 1000lbs dropped from 30ft still hurts pretty bad......

Sorry if I sound like a mofo but I just want people to think about the details as ignoring them will get you hurt.

ps yes all my coworkers hate me............(but no-one has died yet in 20 years of big narly trees)
 
The redirect worked just fine. We had a timber hitch tied on to the block and it ran the rope directly into the grcs as planned. With my rigging spots being in multiple angles the block helped keep everything nice and straight.
 
I have a quick question on that redirect block.... does that have to be a block or could you use a rescue pulley? We dont have a GRCS or a Hobbs, but would this technique be useful with port a wraps?
 
We used a block and sling above the GRCS last week on a removal project. The line entering the GRCS would have been at too much of an angle and could have created a lot of friction at the fair leads above the bollard. Worked well for us.

Nice job.

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Nice job. Did you ever consider the option of using two climbers at the same time? One on each side of the tree. The tree was very healthy and sound and there looked like plenty of room for two. One guy is cutting while the other is setting up for his next cut and then the ground guys alternate who they are rigging for. Or something like that.
 
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A rescue pulley would be fine, but even that is a bit of overkill. I often just use a large clevis or a carabiener. As for use on a porty? You could do it, but I an not sure what you would gain other than hassle. The porty moves with the sling and if the angle gets too crazy just simply slide the porty around the tree.


Tony
 
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It's hard to imagine someone hating the view of another house so much that they would devalue their own yard by removing a great tree!

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Seriously. Some people just don't get it.
 
thanks for your concerns but no worries. I usually wear one everyday but we were one hard hat short for one of the ground guys. I felt it more prudent that he had one than myself. It was only for part of the day and most of my rigging was going away from me so even if something had gone wrong it would be damn near impossible for me to get hit but more possible for my ground man to be struck. I know its not right either way but I did what I felt safe and was right at the time. Since then I carry a couple extra hats along with me

As far as two climbers goes. I am the only climber with the company so that wasnt an option but a couple of my guys are working towards it.
 
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Hey there Familytree, nice job. Just wondering what the block 2 feet above the grcs was supposed to be doing? At the risk of sounding like a dick I would say it is doing nothing due to the fact that it has a foot of tail so can move around anywhere instead of acting as a redirect and keeping the rope feeding in at 90degrees to bollard.

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pctree is correct....the 3rd picture clearly shows it. That pulley is about as much use as a limp 'you know what'....hangs like one too! It needs to be way higher Marc, and without the long tail. Why such a long tail anyhow?

Re: The Grcs position - That trunk was screaming out for a cut-in, what with that taper. You should have been onto that one my friend, I glad your all ok though.

Looks like the weather was favourable, good for moral and the lawn. Nice healthy tree and all but it wasn't your call so dont feel too bad about it.

Apart from the mishap at the end, you shown a lot of patience for sticking with the rigging for 3 days, well done for that.

I read in your other thread how impressed your have been with the GRCS etc....how did it help you on this particular tree where you couldn't have done the same with a portowrap?

Did I read somewhere that your're the only climber in the company? If so, and you get hurt up the tree, what then?

I just read this through before submitting and it does sort of read negative, so heres a token smiley
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No problems regs always open to criticism but always in small doses. I didn't think of doing a cut out with the grcs. I honestly forgot that was standard practice. The block could have been hire for sure. I just looked at the pic I posted again and the block was way to loose. It wasnt set up like that on previous days. I agree with what you and pctree said and apologize for the confusion.

As far as using the grcs it was a huge help for the million of tip ties I had to do to avoid the other ornamental trees and roof of the house. I also liked to use it to take the stretch out of the line for critical cuts when those extra inchs mattered. We eventually changed over to the alluminum bollard after all lifting duties were done with

Yes. I am the only climber for the company. Most of the time I climb drt off of srt so that my crew can lower me down if a problem ever does occur. We actually joke about it. My ground man says that he will notch the tree and get me down in minuets. Not funny to all but it makes me laugh. My guys are trained for an ariel rescue but I am probably better off with a notch and drop

By the way regs. I was very impressed with your Hobbs video and it came to mind while I was rigging out the limbs and wood. We didn't do quite as well as you my friend but I still hold my head high for the job that my ground men and myself did
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Yes. I am the only climber for the company. Most of the time I climb drt off of srt so that my crew can lower me down if a problem ever does occur.

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Marc, that was a heck of a job to tackle for someone who, in my eyes, is a relatively new climber. We didn't have the access to the phenominal amount of information available nowadays but when I was training I felt it took 3 to 5 years of supervised climbing before I was comfortable turning a climber loose by himself in any situation.

Good for you for recognizing your crews' limitations in regards to aerial rescue. I know if more companies were honest about this, this system would be used more often. There are many hundreds of tree companies with just one qualified climber which puts a heck of a burden on the crew not to mention the difficulty for your local emergency people if they get called in to play. I use this same system and find it very reassuring that if a rescue situation develops it can be handled very simply with very little danger to my crew, which is my wife, or anyone else.

Dave
 
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